You have my deepest sympathies FedUpJw, for having to endure through that tortuous 'monologue'.
I agree with loyalty to one's spouse however, I call BS on the rest!
They really do live in a 'fantasy world'.
so i suffered through another one of these idiotic "encouraging" talks by tony vives.. he prattled on about loyalty, and pretty well concentrated on three areas.
loyalty to ones marriage mate, which is no problem.
if one is married they really do owe loyalty to their husband or wife.. second, he hammered on "loyalty" by having nothing to do with a df'd family member, even a child!
You have my deepest sympathies FedUpJw, for having to endure through that tortuous 'monologue'.
I agree with loyalty to one's spouse however, I call BS on the rest!
They really do live in a 'fantasy world'.
we all know that this cult will drive those trying to leave to desperate measures, and today by brother was very nearly one of those statistics.
he slashed his thigh with a kitchen knife and was bleeding out until he called the police.. i got a call on my way home from work from a police officer, coincidentally it was one of my old friends from school who's now a cop.
he told me my brother is in hospital after an attempted suicide and has lost some blood but will be ok. but i should get to the hospital as he's asking for me.
Hi PE
Very sorry to read about what has happened to your brother. Fortunately he is in the best place for the time being where real professionals - the nurses, doctors, therapists etc - will help him through this ordeal.
As others have already mentioned, this is in no way your fault. No matter what happens going forward, always be there for your brother - he will never forget it.
quite possibly the most cringeworthy thing i've seen them do yet.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6tk88rstv6o.
Coming in late on this topic;
Strip away the Org and you'll find that they are good people just like all of us here on this forum.
It's saddening to see these people waste away their lives for an organisation that is most probably the biggest fraud in history. Not to mention that the hierarchy think nothing of the R&F regardless of their status in the congregations.
I'm not knocking the singers and musicians in this video however, the lyrics and music is embarrassing.
Here's hoping that someday they too will break free from the org.
this is one of the featured articals on jw.borg at the moment.
could it be because the young ones are googling their parents religion?, seeing the bullshit?, and calling their parents out on it?
i hope so.. https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20120201/adolescent-questions-faith/.
Oops; my bad, I somehow posted my comment above in the wrong discussion thread.
Have copied and pasted across to the relevant discussion thread.
Can either admin or the mod's delete this comment and mine above please.
this is one of the featured articals on jw.borg at the moment.
could it be because the young ones are googling their parents religion?, seeing the bullshit?, and calling their parents out on it?
i hope so.. https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/wp20120201/adolescent-questions-faith/.
Coming in late on this;
Strip away the Org and you'll find that they are good people just like all of us here on this forum.
It's really saddening to see them waste away their lives for an organisation that is most probably the biggest fraud in history. Not to mention that the hierarchy think nothing of the R&F regardless of their status in the congregations.
I'm not knocking the musicians and singers in this video however, the lyrics and tune is down right embarrassing.
last year i didn't bother with christmas as it still felt like a "nothing" day to me (thanks watchtower!).
this is the 2nd christmas since waking up and leaving the cult and i've finally bought my first christmas tree:).
i have no idea what to do with it though.
Hi PE
Enjoy the moment decorating your xmas tree with your daughter. Don't forget to take photographs of her putting her personal touch on the tree. In years to come you and her will reminisce the event. These will be precious memories.
no disrespect to women intended ... however hopefully this will give you something to laugh about.. .
No disrespect to women intended ... however hopefully this will give you something to laugh about.
came across this youtube video ... the issue of child abuse within the org (uk) is now going to be raised in parliament.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyloy92e9hq.
Came across this Youtube video ... the issue of child abuse within the Org (UK) is now going to be raised in parliament.
once upon a time, as a jw, i was afraid to buy turkey during thanksgiving time.
while attending the thursday night ministry school meeting (on thanksgiving day), i was cautious not to mention the word thanksgiving, for fear of bringing reproach to bigj.. now, free at last, my happy thanksgiving wishes to everyone who celebrate this holiday..
Happy Thanksgiving to all our American friends.
I hope you have a great time with your family.
taking a walk down memory lane at those looooonnnnngg, tedious conventions... .
(boy, they weren’t kidding when they spoke about being long-suffering and having endurance!).
but what were some of your convention highlights, or lowlights, from back in the day?.
Years ago when I attended the district conventions at a university stadium in South Africa (with the sun bearing down upon us - it was hot as hell) the vast majority of the attendees sat in the grandstands sweltering in the heat or got soaked in the rain. A minority of us used to sit behind the mound under the trees - we erected gazebo's and sat comfortably in our camping chairs with the cooler boxes containing our lunch and a couple of sneaky drinks - lol. We couldn't see the stage however the sound dept set up speakers. I used the opportunity to catch up on some sleep.