Posts by IWant2Leave

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another reason pandemic benefits org

by Magnum in

i've already posted in an earlier thread how the pandemic benefits the org in that it presents it an excuse to go completely electronic and sell all buildings (if that's what it wants).

however, there is another way the pandemic benefits the org; it presents it an excuse for declining numbers.. many of us have wondered just how much of a downturn there's been in jw land in recent years.

we've wondered whether the org was playing with the numbers to make the situation appear better than it was.

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@joe134cd

"I believe wt numbers to be totally transparent and if anything underestimates membership growth."
As a former elder of 25 years and congregation secretary, congregation elders do all that they can to keep the numbers up! They call irregular or inactive ones and badger until they pull field service time from the air. The reporting of 15 minute increments for older and infirmed was simply to keep publisher count up. Remember In Africa JW's were crossing crocodile infested waters to get to the meetings and field service, preaching from an iron lung, and witnessing without arms and legs, and then bam, only 15 minutes per month and you remain a regular publisher. I don't believe the 8.6 million for one second!
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Another Kingdom Hall Sold (Van Buren, NY)

by Anony Mous in

https://www.xome.com/commercial-for-sale/7758-maple-road-van-buren-ny-13027-319162381.

i was just looking around, this one i've been involved in renovating with the rbc.

apparently it sold for $500k..

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Visiting speaker from Brazil (on Zoom), mentioned that there are 600 Kingdom Halls for sale there. There is a J.W. dept. that does mock ups to show what the property could look like for the purpose that is needed. They also look for investors for these properties. After saying that 600 properties are for sale, he quickly added that interest in the truth is not down in Brazil. That seems like a lot of displaced publishers to me!

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The book "New Boy" is Free on Amazon For Down Load the Next 4 Days

by 1234 in

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friends

a few people have posted that i wrote my book to "make money.

"yes, i have made some money from this book but nothing to the comparison to the 11 years it took to write it and the cost to produce it.money was the last thing on my mind on my list of motivations/priorities in writing of this book.

my thought was if i could circumvent the pain and suffering that the watchtower bible & tract society/ jehovah's witnesses has caused to just one person's life than the book has served its purpose.i'm happy to announce the book is free for down load on amazon for the next 5 days.enjoy my friends.keith casaronap.s if after reading it, if you could post a review on amazon i would greatly appreciate it.

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I was able to download to a desktop computer. You have to download the Kindle app to your computer. The first try accidentally went to my wife's Kindle , so I may be in trouble. Or, maybe she will get curious and read it. I can only hope!

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No more hour requirements for pioneers

by solomon in

it was announced at the meeting.

do what you are able to because of covid.. i think i should sign up as i’m able to meet the hour requirements.

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There was no announcement here in Texas about pioneer hour reduction. Maybe next week. There was a Judicial Committee announcement though. Someone on the forum called the Kingdom Halls Judicial Centers or something like that. No meetings, but Judicial Committees are okay.

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No, They Will Never Notice!

by Atlantis in

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since the watchtower has already made this bible public, i can put a link out here.. no, the rank & file will never notice the words "governing body" have been inserted into acts 15: 1-35 in the 2019 new world translation, matthew to acts.. click the image to make it larger if need be.. https://postimg.cc/sqvdl10w petra!

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@ Millie210 to answer your question:What did the Bible say before they added "Governing Body"?

Acts 15:22 Then it seemed good to the apostles and the elders, with the whole church, to choose men from among them and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They sent Judas called Barsabbas, and Silas, leading men among the brothers (Gideon Bible in the glove box of new cars now. Not just in hotels )

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No, They Will Never Notice!

by Atlantis in

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friends

since the watchtower has already made this bible public, i can put a link out here.. no, the rank & file will never notice the words "governing body" have been inserted into acts 15: 1-35 in the 2019 new world translation, matthew to acts.. click the image to make it larger if need be.. https://postimg.cc/sqvdl10w petra!

IWant2Leave

They add the phrase "governing body" to try to give themselves legitimacy while they never mention that "the

whole congregation" or as Gideon bible says "the whole church" was involved in making the decision concerning the matter of circumcision. If the aim is to follow the 1st century pattern of doing things, the congregation should have a say in more matters than the resolutions that are voted on regarding finances.

I listened to the Zoom meeting last night. It was Jehovah, Jehovah, Jehovah, Governing Body, Faithful Slave, thank you Jehovah for Zoom, thank you Faithful Slave for giving us Zoom so that we can get this spiritual food. Sorry for the rant, I'm wound up this morning!

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Watchtower June 2020 Article, '' Return to Me''

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

the watchtower—study edition | june 2020. .

study article 26.

6 who can share in the search for inactive ones?

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I went back and pulled some of my elder's notes from June 2014 Circuit Overseer's visit. This is what we were told:

"The governing body is directing that we make contact with all inactive ones, this week. Follow through immediately! Love the brothers from the heart. View as a lost sheep"

The theme of one of the talks to the elders: "Assist Inactive Ones to Return To Jehovah" The entire week of the visit per the "organization" was to focus on inactive ones. The body of elders and the congregation thought that something big was imminent. Nothing happened. These are the scriptures that were emphasized in our meetings for the week: Luke 15:4-7;John21:15-17; 1Peter5:2; and Ezek 34:15, 16. A report was made at the end of the visit, and things went back to normal. No Great Trib. and no Armageddon. It is cyclical. I agree with one of the posters on here. 'Let's review. It's a cult.'

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Newest Anti-Apostate Tactics

by Anna Marina in

don't quote any scriptures during the watchtower study that are not in the paragraph.. don't quote the governing body or anything from the broadcast ever.

it might be true but it is not true truth if it is coming out of your mouth if you have been critical of the governing body.

especially so if your criticism is valid and you have dared to support you view with scriptures, most especially the words of jesus christ.. anyone know of other new tactics?.

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And no news report or court cases were to be mentioned. This was the announcement before the WT lesson started. I don't know if the conductor was instructed to make that announcement from higher ups or he did it on his own?

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Newest Anti-Apostate Tactics

by Anna Marina in

don't quote any scriptures during the watchtower study that are not in the paragraph.. don't quote the governing body or anything from the broadcast ever.

it might be true but it is not true truth if it is coming out of your mouth if you have been critical of the governing body.

especially so if your criticism is valid and you have dared to support you view with scriptures, most especially the words of jesus christ.. anyone know of other new tactics?.

IWant2Leave

I can vouch for the part of only using scriptures that are in the WatchTower lesson. I conducted the WT for 10+ years. It's drummed into your head by the Circuit Overseer, no extra research, even if it is JW literature, and no extra scriptures. We were told that the slave knew all of the extra research that we want to bring out, and the FS decided to leave it out and so should we! "We don't know more than the slave, do we? So leave it on the cutting room floor," was the C.O.'s words.

Now comments are to be 30 seconds or less. On the WT dealing with child abuse, no personal experiences were to be given.

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Telehealth Doctor's Visits Provided by JW Drs. - Coming Soon?

by JWTom in

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there is a zoom meeting in our area this coming weekend to educate anyone with a healthcare background about "volunteering" to be part of providing health care through online zoom doctors visits.

evidently jw doctors across the us are volunteering to do free zoom consultations that are technically real doctors visits.

don't have many details other than i saw some of the letters from petra where people could sign up for this.. wondering if this is already happening in some areas or if anyone knows more about it?

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I guess it would be similar to Teladoc and other type medical programs where a visit is via internet. I don't know about liability. For sure WTBTS won't be liable. Will try to weasel out if anything goes wrong.