I think W.T. has hired armed security at night. I was told this by a Bethelite years ago. The ones in the grey suits are Bethelites during the day. Can anyone confirm one way or the other?
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Love the don't use a gun for self defence by Gary Bro
by mickbobcat ini just watched that stupid talk by gary while e bro on not using a gun for self defense but it went deeper.
i was that you don't defend yourself against violence.
well ain't that great from an asshat living in a gated and guarded compound.
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For Witnesses Who Want To Leave Fade, Disassociate or Get Disfellowshipped?
by minimus inmy opinion is if possible fading is the best way to go..
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It really says something about an organization that takes so much thought to leave and still keep your family and friends intact. It's like mafia or a gang where you can't leave unless it's in a body bag. Just think about it, a grown up can leave their job, school, club, even the military once your time is done, and any other number of things. But with J W's it's all stress and strategy. I think it will get easier as time goes on. In my area of the U.S., even old timers are quitting, pioneers, m. servants and elders. I've had two C.O.'s that hinted that they would leave or resign from the traveling work, but have nowhere to go and no money for retirement. So they keep up the charade. Sad when you think about it.
I'm in the second year of my fade, elders that I served with continue to call and I get messages that the congregation misses me. They want to know why don't they see me on Zoom? I think sometimes that I should D.A., but I have too much family in that would shun me.
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Major ABC news article JW'S in Russia
by Bill Covert inif someone can post an abc news article on forum, i lack the computer skills.
please read.
the main point was nobody is able to figure out motive for persecution.
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KH's Still All Closed- How Bad is WT doing Financially?
by OnTheWayOut inmost churches are back to in-person worship.
not jehovah's witnesses.
is watchtower still managing to fleece the flocks as the sheeple no longer get literature, no longer go to the kh, no longer walk past the donation box?
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In my area, the elders are having problems keeping the lawn mowed. The few younger brothers are either unwilling or their work/school schedule doesn't work out, and the older brothers can't take the sun. There is over an acre to mow, and even with a riding lawn mower and several self-propelled mowers, its hard work. We had brothers in the past get dizzy and have to take a break, or stop mowing because of this. Add in the trees and shrubbery and it's a very big job. We were going to hire a lawn service years ago and the CO shot that down. But all excess monies go to "Mother."
Shortly before I stepped aside as an elder, they were having a problem getting elders to serve on the Kingdom Hall Service Comm. The chairman slot that headed up repairs was a sought after spot, now nobody wants it.
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What Door to Door has been Like For J W's the Past 20 Years
by IWant2Leave inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ki801ccg9yo.
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Any Old-Timers Remember this Kingdom Melody?
by Sea Breeze inwe used to sing a slow song in the late 60's and early 70's that went something like : "don't be afraid of them that can kill the body buy cannot kill the soul" .... or something like that.does anyone remember that one?.
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"Fear not those who kill the body, but cannot destroy the soul, faithful to the end continue, i will help you reach your goal." I don't remember the name of it though.
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Are JWs still reporting time?
by Vanderhoven7 inhere are some little child encouragers at work.. .
how do they report time since the halls closed?.
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An elder’s letter since Covid mentions that you don’t even have to give an hourly amount, just say that you have time. I would say this to inflate publisher numbers. I thought this years ago when the WTS went to as little as 15 minutes to remain a publisher. That’s a shame when you have ones crossing crocodile infested waters, jungles with dangerous animals, preaching from an iron lung in the 60’s, and being pushed around on a cart because you have no arms or legs (j w video).” to preach. I’m starting to agree with some of the other posters and activists, that there is no way there is 8 million Witnesses.
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What would happen if the Watchtower decided no more meeting at Kingdom Halls, only Zoom?
by pistolpete ini’m seeing my hard core believing relatives slowly losing faith that the watchtower is the organization that “god” is using to represent him on earth.. just about all the churches in their area have opened up.. but not the watchtower.. this is having an affect on the faith of even the old timers.
now the only ones who are still holding the faith are the female jws and only those past 70 years of age.
even my old male jw relative past 70 are starting to say that it can’t be jehovah’s organization because the other churches are all open and god supposed organization who is supposed to preach the warning message is still closed with no open in sight.
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In my area Zoom Field Service codes have been sent out covering through the month of August and meetings through Dec. 2021. On Sundays, I see church parking lots at near capacity. It seems that “Christendom” was anxious to gather together after the pandemic, the Witnesses not so much, other than Judicial Committees!
My PIMI family doesn’t seem to be too anxious to get back to meetings. They do a lot of talking, laughing and texting during the Zoom meetings. They are late many times signing on and sign off within a minute after meetings conclude. So yes WT has a lot of work ahead to get meetings going again.
Its true you can’t go back once you wake up. Even olde timers are getting tired and discouraged. Many see the clock ticking and are wondering if the Big A will come in their lifetime. And Divine protection was lacking for the Witnesses during Covid. Their percentage of death was high!
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Bola posted this same request four years ago. “Something is fishy in Denmark!”
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Ex JW Elder, COBE, Program Convention Overseer Speaks Out
by James Jack inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ks1rghdxc1y&t=844s.
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It says that he is an EX-JW. Many former male JW's grow beards to show that WT no longer has authority or control over them, and beards look nice too! My C.O. told me that there is no scriptural reason against having a beard. It's a rule of WT only, and not based on scripture!