Posts by problemaddict

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My Final Goodbye

by Lady Lee in

i want to start by saying i will not participate in discussion here about my resignation as a moderator at jwn.. simon please consider this as my resignation from that position.. i have been posting on this board for almost 12 years.

i know some of you a lot, others a little and some not very well at all.

i have remained here for those of you who have needed support as you make the transition out of the wts, who needed someone to listen to your experiences of abuse at the hands of jehovah's witnesses, and to both laugh and cry with you as you progress out of the watchtower society.. we know that we have all experienced the cruelty of abuse of one kind or another.

problemaddict

Ok.....I'm back. Just had to take a break there.

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My Final Goodbye

by Lady Lee in

i want to start by saying i will not participate in discussion here about my resignation as a moderator at jwn.. simon please consider this as my resignation from that position.. i have been posting on this board for almost 12 years.

i know some of you a lot, others a little and some not very well at all.

i have remained here for those of you who have needed support as you make the transition out of the wts, who needed someone to listen to your experiences of abuse at the hands of jehovah's witnesses, and to both laugh and cry with you as you progress out of the watchtower society.. we know that we have all experienced the cruelty of abuse of one kind or another.

problemaddict

I'm out of here! Goodbye forever board that exists in the web somewhere.

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New Magazine says birthdays will kill you

by RayPublisher in

new july 2013 awake says this on page 3:.

"there is a 14 percent greater probability that a person over 60 years of age will die on his birthday rather than on other days.".

wow, they have now proven that birthdays are pagan and not fit for christians!.

problemaddict

Well lets face it. cake has sugar, simple carbs that have been processed. Sugar is addictive, and not good for you. So you could lead into a life of obesity, get diabetes or heart disease....and BOOM!

Dead.

Thank you for the food at the proper time, and this clearly explains why JW's are the fittest religion in the world. No cake and walking all the time!

(sarcasm)

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My Final Goodbye

by Lady Lee in

i want to start by saying i will not participate in discussion here about my resignation as a moderator at jwn.. simon please consider this as my resignation from that position.. i have been posting on this board for almost 12 years.

i know some of you a lot, others a little and some not very well at all.

i have remained here for those of you who have needed support as you make the transition out of the wts, who needed someone to listen to your experiences of abuse at the hands of jehovah's witnesses, and to both laugh and cry with you as you progress out of the watchtower society.. we know that we have all experienced the cruelty of abuse of one kind or another.

problemaddict

Hey Steve. Thanks for getting back to me. I am not equating community, with unity of thought OR purpose. I also accept the fact that I have a much more broad definition of community than you do. A community is not just one thing after all. We all (believers, athiests, crab people), feed off ne another in some sense through participation, lurking, advise, shared experiences, and more. If that isn't community......what is?

Doesn't mean we have to feel or act the same way, but creating an outlet for people to express themselves and see if there is commonality is part of what happens within other communities. I would humbly invite you to consider a broader definition of community, and how you relate to all of the communities you are a part of.

I don't know if my little statement "curbed clear headed discussion". I haven't been here long, but I'm not much of a boat rocker. Just anew kid. i recognize most of the people here are quite abit older than myself and I defer to the reality each person experiences. I do think there can be an unintended cannibalistic consequence of the ex-JW community, and how strongly people feel abotu a variety of things, that has the guys in Brooklyn twisting their mustaches with glee.

That alone is not reason to do anything in particular I suppose. Or is it?

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Question for Elders... Will Refusing to meet with Elders - Avoid Disfellowshipping?

by rrb2016 in

jw
friends

does anyone know if this strategy will work to avoid being disfellowshipped?

if one moves their card from one hall to another before a "wrongdoing" becomes public - and then refuses to meet with the elders at the new hall - will they simply be able to fade away without being disfellowshipped.

i had heard that if you refuse to meet with the elders, they generally will not df you - in order to avoid possible legal issues.

problemaddict

Everyone here is right. You cna be DF'd in abstentia. The circumstances matter however. Do they have "evidence" against you and you just don't want to show up? Probably won't work. Do they have suspicions about you that they want to confirm? Deny meeting all day long and nothing will happen.

There isn't just one answer to your question.

Maybe share more if you feel comfortable doing so. if not, we all understand.

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WT SHUNNING POLICY: What has it done, or could it do to you?

by flipper in

jw
friends

hi y'all, this is mrs. flipper.

please share your experiences with this, or possible consequences of being outed.. this recent controversy and resulting arguments all stem from people being outed - possibly losing friends and family because most jw's will blindly follow the watchtower's rules to shun them.. among people i know and experiences read here, the grief and loss caused by this is terrible, and maybe now is a good time to put up some experiences here, and put the focus on the worst villians of all - wt policymakers..

problemaddict

@ mind blown. No doubt in fact the exact person I was thinking of when making that statement, gets high on the regular. But he is concerned about my spiritual welfare, and defending the WT as "the closest there is".

I hear that so many times, that I ask how they can have it the closest when they excommunicate people under almost any pretense under the sun. And the easiest way to get df'd.....you got it......to speak to a disfellowshipped person!

How is that "getting it closest" to what the bible says about Jesus.

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WT SHUNNING POLICY: What has it done, or could it do to you?

by flipper in

jw
friends

hi y'all, this is mrs. flipper.

please share your experiences with this, or possible consequences of being outed.. this recent controversy and resulting arguments all stem from people being outed - possibly losing friends and family because most jw's will blindly follow the watchtower's rules to shun them.. among people i know and experiences read here, the grief and loss caused by this is terrible, and maybe now is a good time to put up some experiences here, and put the focus on the worst villians of all - wt policymakers..

problemaddict

Enforcement of belief through a communal excommunication format.

That is what i officially refer to it as with all of my JW friends. Many of them have been DF'd in the past as kids, and "came back" claiming it did them good. So that is a hard one to bump up against.

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My Final Goodbye

by Lady Lee in

i want to start by saying i will not participate in discussion here about my resignation as a moderator at jwn.. simon please consider this as my resignation from that position.. i have been posting on this board for almost 12 years.

i know some of you a lot, others a little and some not very well at all.

i have remained here for those of you who have needed support as you make the transition out of the wts, who needed someone to listen to your experiences of abuse at the hands of jehovah's witnesses, and to both laugh and cry with you as you progress out of the watchtower society.. we know that we have all experienced the cruelty of abuse of one kind or another.

problemaddict

Hey Steve,

I have a great amount of respect for you and accept your opinion. I do not however agree that we are not a "community". Wether people realize it or not, wether they accept it or not, and wether they participate in it or not, does not make it any less true that the people that come here and help, hurt, support and sometimes tear down one another....are in fact part of a community. Community has common experience more than common interest. People are still allowed to be people.

As far as hyperbole goes.....so what? I wasn't refferencing the actual eating of flesh and you already know that home slice.

My only comments on this whole thing have strayed clear of sides, and personal feelings about any one person in particular. I do however know one thing. The guys at Bethel LOVE this stuff, and laugh at it. I am pretty convinced that anything that does that, does not further the cause that any person may or may not have on this board.

In that sense yes I think the ex-JW community is fractioned at best, cannibalistic at worst, and only has experienced a fraction of what it could for the good of not only those that are already a prt of this community, but who may still become a part.

I also have to good sense to know that especially on an internet forum, my opinion means a hill of beans. So there it is. Everyone feel the way you want to. Can we just let this whole mess die so we stop bringing joy to the hearts of those who think we are "mentally diseased" already?

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My Final Goodbye

by Lady Lee in

i want to start by saying i will not participate in discussion here about my resignation as a moderator at jwn.. simon please consider this as my resignation from that position.. i have been posting on this board for almost 12 years.

i know some of you a lot, others a little and some not very well at all.

i have remained here for those of you who have needed support as you make the transition out of the wts, who needed someone to listen to your experiences of abuse at the hands of jehovah's witnesses, and to both laugh and cry with you as you progress out of the watchtower society.. we know that we have all experienced the cruelty of abuse of one kind or another.

problemaddict

I think its a shame that the ex-JW community seems to turn cannibalistic. Such a small thing unites us all, and Londo said it best. This is a stopping ground for people on their path to somewhere else. Maybe that is what Simon intended all along.

I do weep that some of the most atune and brightest have to choose "sides" in any situation. I don't even really know the scenario, and I don't think I need to.

Usually there is common ground and leeway to settle, but it all depends on the people involved.

Lady Lee thank you for your contribution to the board that has helped me personally so much, even though you and I have never interacted.

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The Advocates for Awareness of Watchtower Abuses (AAWA) [WARNING]

by Simon in

uncensored discussions and information for anyone interested in the advocates for awareness of watchtower abuses or 'aawa' http://aawa.co/ (previously known as "the association of anti-watchtower activists http://jwactivists.org/) and how it's handled and responded to privacy issues and put people at risk:.

aawa is here!!

(the association of anti-watchtower activists)an invitation to a new effort- aawawhy when i logged onto aawa did it go to facebook ?in regards to aawaaawa - every generation needs a new revolution - thomas jeffersonnotice how the introduction of the aawa has brought out the loonies lately?will aawa become another cult?

problemaddict

Anyone else want to vote for all of these AWAA threads to come down and for us to rewind a few days.

This is just the ehight of ridiculousness at this point. People are aloud to feel differently, even to have strong feelings about those things. I think calling anything AWAA did something besides a mistake, is probably not accurate.

We are all adults. We all care about the same things. Can we jsut move on and use our time and direct our angst against what the real problem is.

Single gay father immigrants that are coming here to take our jobs, our guns, and unplug our brain dead ladies.