recently a jw friend that my wife & i knew 3 years ago added me on facebook, after i accepted the request she invited me to a dinner that her and her husband are holding next month.. i imagined that she was unaware of our apostasy, so i declined the invitation on the basis of not wanting to ruin her dinner after the rest of her guests fled at our presence.. i'm never sure how old friends will react when i tell them that i'm no longer a jw.. usually their response is "..... permanent-silence......".
her response went something like this, " we are all out!
everyone that is coming is out we all look forward to seeing you guys so much" it turns out that there will be 6 people at the dinner all friends of ours from a congregation that we attended a few years back.. they have all left the organization recently.. pretty crazy experience..
I'm finding more and more people too. It seems like late 20's to late 30's is the current "sweet spot" for waking up.
If you go past it....it seems liek you are a lifer. If you leave before then, somehow you blame yourself. That filet is more and more absent from meetings or conventions.
The future does not look good for this religion.
ok well i have updated you about the dilemma about my wife and family and more recently about the elders trying to schedule a shepherding call.. on our way back from th international convention she basically told me if i were to leave that we should go our seperate ways.. so i took a few days and thought about it.
it seems she was more mad about my waffling back and forth and going to the hall sometimes and just not making up my mind.. today i gave her a proposal- i will stop going all together unless it it an assembly or convention or memorial for her.. we will not discuss religious topics, as this is where most of our arguments have been centered around, at all.. we will support all of each others endeavors besides religious intrests.
i will talk to my family and let them know my intentions without getting into an details next month because my mother keeps calling me about it.
Sounds reasonable. Don't be surprised if your happiness, and living life differently makes her a little angry at first. If you love her and want it to work, just make sure to be a great husband. If there is real love there, she WILL give you an opportunity at some point.....and then its up to you.
Good luck! Keep us updated. What part of the world are you in? Look for support and friends in your area.
new article on ajwrb:.
http://ajwrb.org/medicine/watchtower-no-blood-card.
lee.
Lee the Dec 1993 letter doesn't read right. Other than that, great job.
consider an example i often hear.
youre sitting at a dinner table.
the topic of conversation is regarding your mother.
When you control the "criteria" for what is and is not an apostate, you control the foundation of the conversation anyways.
i'm at starbucks .
just outside in the courtyard.. i'm trembling.
my hands are shaking.. wow!.
Terry......hes working it out. Its his own journey for one way or the other. You are a bump in it that may or may not change the direction in a minor way, that could have consequences way down the line.
if a person says that they are not willing to meet with the elders or does not meet with them, will that get them df'ed?
there is a rumor about a person who has left the truth (went inactive) about being imoral.
they do not have the 2 person witness so they can't take actions because of this.
May I ask how long they have been inactive?
If they don't care, I would just advise them to do the following.
Don't duck the calls, but don't answer any questions. YOU ask the questions. Why are you guys calling me? Why do you want to meet with me? What is the accusation? Who is making the accusation?
IF there are 2 people (or if they SAY there are), you HAVE THE RIGHT to know who they are. Do not let them tell you otherwise.
If they do not, or do not share info, just say you know they "mean well", but you don't need to have a sherperding visit. (this is deliberate)
They will say it isn't, its a judicial comittee! Well refer to the original questions. I certainly would never appear for a JC anyways, but certainly not one where there was simply rumor and heresay, as well as a desire to already arrive at a certain conclusion.
If it is one person only, perhaps you can ask them why they did not feel that this was just rumor, and why they did not encourage the person to apply matthew 18.
Your friend owes them nothing. They are just some dudes.
Keep us informed, or reach out for more. Take care.
is it a feeling of---oh no!!?.
are you happy to see them?.
do you have a feeling of consternation?.
I run into JW's all the time. Most of my family and friends are JW's. Far from wanting to "smash their face in", I love them and say hi and feel about them the same way i would any close friends.
Run of the mill JWs that show up at the door? I think nothing. Maybe pity?
JW's I know are judgemental, narrcisistic, rude, SOB's......my heart beats a little faster, but I offer them no reaction.
my mentally in jw wife is trying to organize a "princess party" for my 4 year old daughter and her little cousins and friends.
she was looking at prices of a tent for the backyard party in case it rains.
she asked the hardware store how much and they said 90 dollars for the day.
Hilarious. He is going to "rent" his tent to his daughter and granddaughter. Mighty white of him.
ok, is this a "new understanding" or what?
up until this point i thought that the borg refered paul as a co or do, but never gb member:.
p. 12 now, why would paul a spiritual giant who likely was a member of the first-century governing bodycall himself a miserable man?.
It is reasonable to conclude......that we all need therapy.
does the usa still require the oath of allegiance?.
have any of the current gb made such an oath?.
where or how would i find a copy?.
I am not 100% certain but I do not believe this has been required for some time.
