Posts by problemaddict

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by Theredeemer in

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so, my mother in law who is still active went out in service with the group that had the co visit and came back with some very interesting news.

first off, she knows that we are fading and is ok with it and has some doubts herself.

anyhow, she said that the co went off track during the meeting before service and mentioned how we are now allowed to receive up to 33% of blood in a transfusion.

Nope. This is not official. This young CO is off the reservation. The offical doctrine is still the same. Fractions=Christian to decide, 4 main components and whole blood=repent of you are announced as no longer one of JW's.

This CO probably is reasoning himself out of a tricky situation because he knows its nonsense.

I had a discussion with an elder and was candid with him about my feelings about blood. He told me, "then just don't say anything if you or your family take it. Problem solved."

I told him I hoped one day he would realize how insane that sounded.

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Would this work? Be honest. Brutal if necessary.

by okage in

i feel i must preface this with context so as to make the intention understandable: .

to jehovah's witnesses and their apologists, that goal is destruction of truth and the downfall of jehovah's witnesses.

but that's not our goal.

problemaddict

This simply wouldn't work. The complex mosaic of peoples lives and intertwined relationships cannot be mass handled in a route of disassociation for the sake of trying to make a radar blip. Nobody outside of some bean counters at Brooklyn would even notice.

On top of that, I am of the personal viewpoint, that unless you need to do so for the sake of your mental health, you should never ALLOW yourself to be kicked out of the religion. You can no longer influence others, there is an extra layer of protection, and you cannot employ the occasional thinking question in someones mind.

Information is the enemy of the branch, not membership of a few hundred disaffected former JW's.

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A Message to Active Elders Lurking on JWN

by 00DAD in

there are really only a couple of reasons an active elder would be lurking here on jwn.. .

[if !supportlists]i. your ever growing doubts about the organization have led you here, or.

[if !supportlists]ii.

problemaddict

Is it odd that I just find it so hard to believe that random elders come here to seek out people in their congregations on a whim? I mean, I don't think most elders even know of this place. I don't believe its ever been mentioned in BOE letters.

In order for someone to be here and "out" someone, they would have to have been given a heads up from someone.

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NOT on JW.org; Two Jehovah's Witnesses arrested for murdering 13. Dailey Mail story

by Balaamsass in

two jehovah's witnesses 'murdered 13 people on mission from god to cleanse world of sinners'.

by will stewart.

updated: 07:43 est, 25 september 2008 .

problemaddict

I dont know guys. They certainly were not real JW's. For all the faults, I think any JW would be as sickened by this as we are. It also doesn't pass the smell test with the phrase below. I am pretty sure JW's were thrown into this one without deserving it.

"Mother explained to me that every woman killed or raped by me would become my wives in the afterlife."

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If you drink coffee . . .

by compound complex in

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do you prefer regular brew or the fancy offerings?

can you drink it -- the leaded stuff -- any time, night or day?.

no survey here, just curious.

problemaddict

I like a good french press. Its a nice balance and you can throw in some cinnamon or something. You can also make nice loose tea in a french press. Mate is really good for you.

I need to get off coffee and energy drinks again, and go back to tea.

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Scholarship

by Band on the Run in

i have trouble understanding why people mock scholarship.

if i mention it frequently, it is precisely b/c as a witness, i had no access to it.

when i was told someone by a brother, there was no way to evaluate it.

problemaddict

Lois lane makes an interesting point. I felt pretty smart at one time. The vast majority of people are not interested in "scholarship" and tend to kind of just want the redux. I am not sure many people here look down on scholarship. However, refferencing yourself as a scholar hardly makes you smarter than a bag of hammers. Many people digest information and turn it into viewpoints and believing things for good reasons. Many others swallow information whole, don't digest it, and just parakeet it back to others with little challenge because they are speaking ona level most people don't relate to.

I can understand in any community that going against the status quo can be a loosing battle before the objections or information are even heard. It can be a "closed community" where an actual line of reasoning has little to do with the subject, but how many learned people share the same viewpoint. I don't care for that very much. I prefer each arguement or thought stand on its own, and those interested can come to their own conclusions. To decide what they believe and do not believe based on good reasons.

I am not sure what the New Yorker and Vanity Fair have to do with scholarship. :)

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Governing Body, Faithful slave, or who?

by Chariklo in

i have a question.

to most of you, this will seem elementary, and you'd think that after twenty months or so on this forum i'd know the answer, but i don't.

in this thread.

problemaddict

I may be in a minority here, but I do not believe there is a puppet master over and above the GB. Truth be told they themselves don't seem to really be living high on the hog. Not Rutherford style anyways.

I think the organization has taken ona life all its own. A corp as very well pointed out by jgnat, becomes a beast that needs to be fed. CEO's, founders, chairman, can all come and go, but the beast remains. There are of course many more factors than that, but you get my point.

I think the GB for the most part, are true believers. I think they really believe what they do, and are s subject to the mind control and processes that all of us have been to a certain point. Of course anyone not accountable to anyone else for their actions other than the few people at that table, have to have a different view of things.

I don't think the ex community can have it both ways. The WT is either cash poor or it isn't. Most of their "assets" are brick and morter, and a massive recall of these things usually does not yeild a subsaquent financial benefit. While I believe their handling of money is very shrewd and certainly borderline, I don't think there is a puppet group reaping the benefits. I just don't think that is the reasonable conclusion. :)

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Its been a long time since i last posted, but life is being rough again

by akafreelife in

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it has been a long time since i was on here and life has gone many different ways since then.

been married and getting divorced, and now have a son.

life has not been kind to me since i have left the org.

problemaddict

Hey man, I don't really know you but my heart goes out to you. And being awkward when it comes to others and especially the opposite sex because of feelings of wanting to be loved and approved of, is hardly a trait unique to ex-JW's.

What you are going through is just not an original script. I don't say that to hurt your feelings, but sometimes its good in situations like this, to know you are not unique.

Woman can be a mystery, but whathappened is right. When they are down for you, they act down for you. When they aren't they aren't. She is not. Its best to remove yourself from the situation, and maybe try to have a frank adult conversation with her as to what the real reason is that she drew away. That conversation only works if you remain mature and together for it. Otherwise, don't have it.

You will find new friends. You are not alone.

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.....It is painful to watch...

by OnTheWayOut in

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problemaddict

Sorry OTWO. That is a rough story to read. You are doing the right thing (you already know this), and it is hard to be lied to while you sacrifice so much. I know that. But what she is dealing with in just living from day to day, has to be taking a toll on her sanity. She must also feel connected to her husband. Maybe just not wanting to be alone all day.

I can only imagine what living like that must be like.

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Breaking News! New Anonymous Leak

by headisspinning in

new anonymous leak: .

breaking!

#anonymous message: #opwatchtower court document #leak http://bit.ly/xkdrwa @par_anoia http://bit.ly/xkdyyv #wikileaks

problemaddict

The only think anon could really do that would be of use, would be to purge servers of their little secrets in house. Getting the pedo-list or somethign like that. Gathering what is already out here on the web.....well they could have gone to Atlantis and saved themselves some trouble. Haha.