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I'm quite sure that doing all the heavy lifting on our own was good for us.
I agree. I did the same. I read, I learned, I digested it all. If you take the time to learn you don't need constant and repeated validation.
It's like having a proper meal vs fast-food.
Evans video feed is the fast-food of exJW'ism that's never really filling, and isn't really great for you either. But people get addicted to it and it's a profitable business to be in.
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Posts now of Facebook messages from his wife's family back in 2017 with some fairly explicit stuff involving underage girls. On Twitter under The Vast Apostate Army.
I think there may be a lot more info to come out.
If what I read was true, he's well and truly done. It's bad. Like BAD bad. I think even the most ardent supporter would have to run away from him as fast as they can.
If it is actually true, maybe all this "I have a legal team" act is a last ditch effort to try to stop things coming out. Because there's no sense to it otherwise - trying to scare people off from spreading information you have already confirmed in your own video? Doesn't add up.
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From legal counsel in Thailand
His legal advice, after careful consideration of all matters pertaining to the previous events and video statement, was "me love you wong time, sucky-sucky five dollar!"
i have been thinking that it would be very nice if the us government would be willing to fund ex jw counseling services all over the united states.
i understand that many counselors do not really understand ex jw issues but we can educate them if we have additional funds, etc…if someone here is willing to write a letter to their local representative about it, that would be great!
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You can fill people in very quickly - just say "it's a bit like the Amish" and they know the gist of it.
Isolated group, cut-off from the outside, not allowed to join in with things like the rest of society.
i have been thinking that it would be very nice if the us government would be willing to fund ex jw counseling services all over the united states.
i understand that many counselors do not really understand ex jw issues but we can educate them if we have additional funds, etc…if someone here is willing to write a letter to their local representative about it, that would be great!
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The therapists often don't understand why the person just didn't leave the group
I suspect there are a lot of therapists who are simply not very good and only vaguely qualified in reality (I'm guessing it's more of a "registered" thing). It'a not a hard science after all.
If someone doesn't understand something so basic, that many lay people know of, people should leave and find someone more competent. You shouldn't be there to train them IMO.
Please post it on one of the existing topics. We don't need more for each reply.
i have been thinking that it would be very nice if the us government would be willing to fund ex jw counseling services all over the united states.
i understand that many counselors do not really understand ex jw issues but we can educate them if we have additional funds, etc…if someone here is willing to write a letter to their local representative about it, that would be great!
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Is this a holdover of the "JWs are unique" thinking that JWs have?
Because there really isn't anything that unique about the JW world or upbringing that requires "specialists in JW-ism" IMO.
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From: None of the "Cult Experts" bothered vetting John Cedars?
"The reason I'm not recording it is because I have nothing to hide"
Yeah - what?! That really does make no sense whatsoever. Maybe it was the pitiful pleading he was going to do, not the image he wanted from his "big man talk" outside in the car on his own. Or maybe it was about what he did?
I wonder now about the part in his non-apology video where he says something along the lines of "we had to leave the UK". Maybe it was just a figure of speech, poor phrasing, or maybe it was another accidental admission? It just seems like a weird thing to say. Was he fleeing the potential consequences of something? Did he think he could threaten to expose the WTS involvement in the coverup of his own scandal as a bargaining chip against the WTS?
People are way too eager to hear bad things said about the WTS and don't put enough effort into vetting who they allow into their midst. Hating the WTS should not be a pass or accreditation, it's proof of jack shit. Plenty of people dislike the WTS because they kicked them out for their behavior and were right to do so.
I know some people will be annoyed by that statement - anyone who is just demonstrates they have simplistic black-and-white thinking about anything WTS related and lack the ability to make critical judgement of people other than the badge they wear.
i have been thinking that it would be very nice if the us government would be willing to fund ex jw counseling services all over the united states.
i understand that many counselors do not really understand ex jw issues but we can educate them if we have additional funds, etc…if someone here is willing to write a letter to their local representative about it, that would be great!
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Why would they give special treatment to exJWs? Why would it be any concern of the government? Why would exJWs be a priority over any other groups?
Aren't there already counselling services people can use?
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Ha ha ha, that statement reads to me like it was 100% written by Lloyd, as it's exactly the same tripe as in his video. To summarize the gist of what he says and translate it from the complex legal statement that it totally is:
Oh noes, telling everyone what I've been up to is the worst crime ever, totally way worse than taking money off people and spending it to cheat on your wife with hookers, for sure! Apart from all of it, that I've already confirmed to be true, the rest is lies! The fact that I admitted to everything is now null and void because I removed the video where I did, and edited those parts out, so there, beat that!
I heard the word "slander" once, and even though I'm totally the law-talking-guy I'm going to use it, even though it's really things that have been spoken verbally about me rather than written (i.e. libel). Of course the whole "being true" thing makes it neither slander nor libel but I desperately need to pretend it still is.
Remember, the most important thing in all this is praise and adulation for me, that needs to keep coming my way. I want to thank all the suckers for keeping it up. And nothing says support like a donation or three, so don't be shy putting your hands in your pockets. Remember who the real victim is here! Ignore those that remind you I'm a perp, not a victim ...
I totally have a legal team, please believe me - look, I'm going to throw in some legal words that I saw on an episode of Law and Order, like "Jurisdiction". Of course, even though I'm going to claim things are illegal, I'm still going to remind people that unethicalness has been done hitherto and unto me, see that's LAW SPEAK peasants! Now I'm totally stopping digging holes, right after this. From now on THEY are doing the talking, even though I said that they prepared this. I forgot who I was pretending to be.
Now, hopefully, that will be an end to the matter so we can all move on, but mostly me. Most importantly, I can move on to my important work of self promotion and money making, and I won't be subject to people reminding any potential donor that I'm a lying fat sack of woman-abusing shit who visited places where women are often trafficked and forced into prostitution, to use prostituted women.
