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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  unless she knows something else and is helping to keep something a secret.

  That is another piece of the jigsaw that would certainly fit the allegation, it's one thing for a wife to chose to forgive an infidelity, that's her choice (even though it may be coerced / pressured ... at some point people are adults and have to assume to have agency over their own life) but if she helped to cover up some incident with a minor then that is a different thing entirely and would certainly damage her reputation as well if it came out and would be a reason for her to help keep it quiet. Assuming the accusation is true of course.
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  I wonder whether the Bethel elder came to Lloyd's judicial committee hearing just because the two other elders didn't speak English well enough? Isn't this a much more plausible explanation?

  I really doubt there were no elders at all in the immediate circuit that could speak English.
  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Unless, perhaps, it’s not just damaging to the branch and may be damaging to you too?

  Exactly, it makes no sense if you claim to be an activist - why is he holding back? But if that damaging information is about himself then it suddenly makes perfect sense. The whole "I have something on them", "I am not going to record it", "we had to leave the UK" all piece together and make (some) sense.
  
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  Who will win: Canadian Truckers or Government?

  by Kosonen in

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  canadian truckers are demonstrating and blocking roads and bridges.

  they demand that all covid restrictions and mandates to be lifted.

  but justin trudeau and his government do not seem to be willing to change anything.

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  The Truckers already won.

  They showed that Trudeau is a clown. He ran and hid.

  They showed that Trudeau is divisive, labelling citizens nazis with no basis.

  They showed that Trudeau is unpopular, because support for them is off the charts.

  They showed that Trudeau is past his sell-by-date. No one wants him, few ever did.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  Other exJW's reported this to the authorities in the UK in 2017 who advised if the victims do not come forward and he is out the country they cannot do anything. The Croatian authorities said if the crime occurred in the UK it is up to the UK law to act so nothing came of it.

  If true, that would explain the phrase he used in the video, something along the lines of "we had to leave the UK". Was it to escape consequences? To fall through the cracks? Unlikely that any country would extradite someone simply for an investigation, especially without anyone coming forward.

  We left the UK. We never say we "had" to - we say we chose to / wanted to / decided to.

  Was the WTS involvement in allowing and / or enabling this the thing he thought he had over them? Literally, their involvement in covering up his own behavior? That would be something eh? Incredibly brazen ... but then look at how shameless and unapologetic he is now.
  
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  The "WE'RE ALL IMPERFECT" Theory.

  by pistolpete in

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  a recurring theme in this loyd deal is the we're all imperfect-----------excuse!.

  the "we're all imperfect" phrase, is an over used watchtower membership cliche, embedded in the minds of jws and anyone that leaves.

  in the real world, there is no such thing as "we are all imperfect".

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  "We're just imperfect men" is the governing body's get-out. It's a shame to validate their excuses isn't it?

  "I can't control my pee-pee" is the same justification that rapists and pedos use. I don't think it's valid.

  At what point does "oh, I'm imperfect" stop being a get-out-of-jail free card for any and all failures? Someplace before Himler and Hitler, right? We can agree on that? What about Jimmie Saville? So imperfect ... and I can hear the "but ... but ... but ..." objections, so keep dialing it back.

  Where is your line? Do you even have one? At what point do you stop making and accepting excuses for people? If you're moving the line to make allowances for someone, you don't really have a line at all. At some point, people behave like shits not because they failed, but because THAT IS WHO THEY ARE, THAT IS THEM LIVING HOW THEY WANT TO LIVE.
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  Australia's Religious Discrimination Act.

  by fulltimestudent in

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  this is an interesting and intriguing new law (or, it will be if enacted in its present form).. quote: "the proposed new religious discrimination act is intended to prevent a person from being discriminated against on the basis of their religion.".

  fair enough, but to get it through the house of representatives last night, the government accepted some changes.. the first draft (discussed last night) had a clause that may have impacted the rights of some gay and/or trans-sexual students at religious schools by allowing a religious school to expel such a student.

  last night the government was forced to accept changes that removed that possibility.

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  Where I disagree with Simon is that the Government should try to do something about the fact that groups preach people to shun the disfellowshipped ones and threaten their members with the same treatment if they don't do as they're told.

  I'm forever amazed that people don't think through the practicalities or consequences of government enforced association. I don't want to live in such a dystopian world.

  Don't look at what you think the law provides as a benefit, to us. Look at how such a rule could be used, and misused, in its entirety.

  Yes, they can shun us ... but maybe we want to shun them. Laws work both ways. What is the plan when uncle government is there with guns to make sure mommy and poppy cray-cray can have some me-time with the kids to tell them about the "one true religion"?

  Be careful what you wish for, you might just get it.
  
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  Australia's Religious Discrimination Act.

  by fulltimestudent in

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  this is an interesting and intriguing new law (or, it will be if enacted in its present form).. quote: "the proposed new religious discrimination act is intended to prevent a person from being discriminated against on the basis of their religion.".

  fair enough, but to get it through the house of representatives last night, the government accepted some changes.. the first draft (discussed last night) had a clause that may have impacted the rights of some gay and/or trans-sexual students at religious schools by allowing a religious school to expel such a student.

  last night the government was forced to accept changes that removed that possibility.

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  Why can't government just piss off and let people live in any group based on any membership they want free from harassment for it? Why should other people have government backed power over them? For what purpose?

  If someone wants to believe that homosexuality is wrong, then why does anyone gay want to join in the first place? What's the point? It's just idiotic laws backed by aggressive activist groups who simply want to annoy others.

  Any group should be allowed to hold whatever views they want, and control the membership they want. Even if those rules are morally wrong, as long as they are not committing criminal acts against anyone, they are not being harmed.

  Not being admitted into a club is not damaging to anyone. If anything, being in a club that doesn't want you as a member seems like a worse situation to be in. The only clubs the government should be concerning itself with is are the ones it runs itself.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  I'm quite sure that doing all the heavy lifting on our own was good for us.

  I agree. I did the same. I read, I learned, I digested it all. If you take the time to learn you don't need constant and repeated validation.

  It's like having a proper meal vs fast-food.

  Evans video feed is the fast-food of exJW'ism that's never really filling, and isn't really great for you either. But people get addicted to it and it's a profitable business to be in.
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Posts now of Facebook messages from his wife's family back in 2017 with some fairly explicit stuff involving underage girls. On Twitter under The Vast Apostate Army.

  I think there may be a lot more info to come out.

  If what I read was true, he's well and truly done. It's bad. Like BAD bad. I think even the most ardent supporter would have to run away from him as fast as they can.

  If it is actually true, maybe all this "I have a legal team" act is a last ditch effort to try to stop things coming out. Because there's no sense to it otherwise - trying to scare people off from spreading information you have already confirmed in your own video? Doesn't add up.