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Grace Gough ( RIP ) left the JW cult in her 70s and went on to help 1000s to escape the cult
by Not_Culty in
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2. scandals
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yj7ilnoxvu4.

she helped me.

sent me my first copy of crisis of conscience (free) grace has been featured on many talk shows, including sally jesse raphael, raising awareness of support for cult abuse survivors.
Simon

That's a great read, good job!
BTW: Grandad Thomas Aylott reminds me of John Le Mesurier, out of "Dad's Army", one of the greatest UK TV series ever.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Simon

The one last piece that I don't think anyone has touched on yet, is what happens with his lawsuits? Not if they go ahead, but if they don't ...
Because he made a big public deal about having a legal team and adding people to his lawsuit, for all the "lies" said about him.
So if there is no lawsuit, are there no lies? I wonder if he's even thought of that, when he was busy mouthing off and putting out his public "statements" on social media?
Because if you say "that's a lie and I have a legal team who will prove it!" and then don't ... what are people meant to think?
Does it become more evidence of making false statements? (about the legal team / lawsuits)
Does it make the allegations more or less believable if they are not defended?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Simon

So here's where I think we're at:
He's not going to go away, because this is how he makes his money. No one can stop him making his videos and soliciting donations. It's the internet after all. He'll censor all the channels he controls to make himself the victim / hero in all things.
There's plenty of information about his behavior and how he's treated people, so anyone who decides to get involved with him or donate to him is doing it because they don't care or haven't bothered to research, but ultimately both of those are their choice.
If his wife wants to stay with him, that's her choice too, because it's her life. I don't think anyone owes any help to people who won't help themselves. People mostly chose the lives they want to live.
I'm sure it won't be the last scandal or fallout he's involved with. Certain people don't attract drama, they cause it. Maybe in 5 years I'll be linking back to this with a "what did I tell you?! post ...".
It's nearly spring, COVID appears to be over. Go out and enjoy life. Don't spend the rest of it dealing with JW issues and those that want to continue playing at being elders.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Simon

He is literally sitting in his YouTube comments section deleting all negative comments
He thinks he's deleting any "abusive comments" but in reality he'll delete anything that isn't totally praising him which is obvious from those that are left. Because in his world, anything that falls short of outright worship of his he deems to be abusive and negative.
There's no such thing as constructive or valid criticism in Lloyd-Land. Well, not of him ...
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Simon

Oh, it's a video? Bleh ... not wasting my time listening to him waffle on again!
Just scanned the comments. The 100% supportive adulation shows he's still unable to allow people to voice their opinion or accept criticism. Censor ... censor ... censor ... LOL
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Simon

He'll soon be releasing his new book of press releases. They will form a novel.
The Redacted Apostate.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Simon

I doubt any of them would be waving a flag saying "look, look, see how we gone and done messed up!". They will likely just silently distance themselves and not use him for anything in future.
And honestly, MSM interest in JWism is always minimal, as a curiosity piece. It's no-one's main focus IMO.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Simon

I think trying to make this about how much someone earns is a mistake.
Whether it's $10 or $100,000, what matters is the pretence that is used to fundraise and what the money is subsequently spent on. The hypocrisy is the thing to be critical of, claiming to campaign for CSA and then engaging in the kind of behavior that contributes to millions of CSA victims. Using a fake "family man" image and claims of having to give up time with wife and family, when in reality he's leaving them at home while he goes off for a private luxury vacation to cheat and womanize (let's assume "women").
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Jussie Smollett on trial
by LoveUniHateExams in
1. social
2. current
there is a trial currently starting - even funnier than the baldwin nonsense.. yes, everyone's favorite actor, singer and hate crime victim is going on trial.. i am, of course, talking about jussie smollett.

he's going on trial for lying to chicago police and wasting their time.. he's obviously as guilty as hell, but i just can't wait for this to unfold.. it's gonna be hilarious ....
Simon

Jussie Smollett is now claiming that the trial that found him guilty of staging a racist attack ... was racist, and demanding a re-trial.
They must have found a nice democrat judge and have some radical black democrats lined up fo jury duty.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Simon

Weird eh?
'cause all of this must have originally started from her, right? (that's my understanding from the original statement, that his wife found out about it and was in contact with Kim).
It now sounds like they have come to some sort of "arrangement" doesn't it? Maybe she wanted a raise, maybe she's doing it for the money after realizing that would come to an end (so becomes another woman for Lloyd to "pay"), or maybe there was a coverup and he's using her part in that as leverage? Who knows ... who cares ... shallow people wallowing in their own mess.
Tip: never get involved in the lives of dysfunctional people. They will suck you into their vortex if you let them and you'll just be wasting your energy on nonsense.