Yeah, there's plenty to be critical of without making things up, and all it does is play into his technique of focusing on one insignificant comment to claim everything is a lie. See "green-screen-gate".
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11530It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Just watching the video by Kim and heard him claim, not for the first time, that he claims he's doing his litigation "for future activists".
As if! What a laughable claim.
When was the last time Lloyd did something for other people? Certainly for other activists, and for one's that may come and take over viewers from him?
Trying to make out his latest in a long line of grubby money-making schemes is really for "noble reasons".
The guy who takes all the money himself from the free labor of others, is suddenly "Mr Altruistic"? I don't think so ...
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Complete this sentence:
What?! 🙄
What a weirdo deviant?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Let's be honest, no one is disfellowshipped for anything besides not offering enough of a grovelling apology to the elders. Especially if you're Elder-spawn, you can do anything and it will all be forgiven.
But take a stand, hold them to account for a lie, or for their objectionable behavior and it's "bye bye"
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Did Tibor accompany JLE to his filming destinations? Did Tibor know that JLE was being unfaithful to his wife? Any person of good morals (whether Tibor or anyone else) who comes into knowledge of such conduct would suffer pangs of conscience over what to do with this knowledge.
It's academic. He knows about it all now and still choses to work for and actively defend him, so we can make a judgement on Tibor's morals and ethics (or lack thereof).
His sister divorced her husband and to avoid being disfellowshipped she used the "mental issues" card from the Shepherding book. Im sure her daddy coaxed her into it.
Interesting that it seems to be a learned "convenient" excuse or explanation for things. It's one of those untouchable claims that are used precisely because no one likes to be seen challenging it.
Of course it's not really an excuse is it, AFAIK there is no asterisk in the Shepherding book saying "all null and void if the person is going through a tough time". And as I said, it's typical "soft handling" of controlling-elder relatives, vs how they treat other people.
People using it to defer scrutiny and criticism are of course shameless shits piggy backing on the back of people who actually suffer genuine mental illness.
All Lloyd is suffering from is "being caught".
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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From what I can gather it seems Lloyds family were willing to continue their relationship if he didn't disassociate (for his father in particular), and for his sister if he discontinued his very public activism.
If so, that's an example of the crony system they have - other people are deemed to have disassociated by their actions, without sending in any letter (as people imagine they have when they announce it)
But if daddy is an elder, you are treated very differently.
Lloyd isn't fighting against the system, he's part of the system, making full use of the double standards and varying rules based on who you know or are related to.
I think every hall had those vile spawn of vile elders who just oozed corruption.
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Simon, can you help?
by Biahi ini’ve sent two messages to two different people on this board, and i don’t think either of them got it.
is anyone else having this issue?.
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They have been received.
In future, please:
- Be more patient, people live in different timezones and wont' necessarily see a message or reply to it immediately
- Post support requests in the correct area
- Use a more descriptive title.
Thanks.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Lloyd thought he was untouchable, like Thanos
In reality, he was a fraud, like Theranos
On the other hand Lloyd is still making a feisty display of carrying on regardless. It looks like a pretty hopeless endeavour, but with his track record of fooling people he obviously still believes he has a chance of weathering this storm.
There's a constant supply of "fresh meat" for him - people leaving who don't know his history, who'll come across his videos with comments full of nothing but adulation (because he deletes anything that questions him).
What we need to do is promote other voices, and that people shouldn't wallow in being an exJW and obsessing about the WTS for the rest of their lives, but instead recover and move on.
I have some thoughts / plans to help with this.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Dear friends can I ask you when respond to this post to keep on referring to Lloyd Evans aka ...
At a certain point, it becomes counter-productive. It could be seen to be spamming, so they wouldn't rank as highly, and also derails the discussion so people who may otherwise want to read things stop doing so.
Like in A Few Good Men where the guys says "you say it once ... you keep saying it and ..." (you know the thing).
So lets stop with it now, thanks.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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More exposure as Lloyd's antics reach a wider audience: