Yikes. What is it with exJWs and scandal lately?!?
How sad to go from a victim to the accused ...
Starting to think that focusing your life on your past traumatic experience perhaps isn't the healthiest of things to do.
Posts by Simon
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29Chessa Manion: When A Victim Becomes The Perp
by NonCoinCollector inthis is a hard one for me to write and words can't describe my frustration in seeing this.
from wbko news: .
bowling green, ky. (wbko) - bowling green police have arrested two people on multiple charges following a rape.. police say the victim told them she was kidnapped, raped, and assaulted.. police also say the rape was recorded by a man named colton hogendorn, who was arrested after police found him on 25 chestnut street.. hogendorn is charged with rape first degree, kidnapping, strangulation, assault, sodomy, and video voyeurism.. police also arrested chessa manion, who was present during the events, and arrested and charged with complicity to the same charges.. both were taken to the warren county regional jail.. .
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Simon
The plan as he described it in his post was to write the book under his real name (no one knew it at the time)
I actually knew it from day one - he's conniving but isn't the brightest (his email was his and his wife's names which took you straight to his JLE Publishing) but it was clear in hindsight that his concern about his identity and location being revealed wasn't because he wanted to fade so much as it be part of his book-promotion grand-reveal / publicity stunt.
All I've seen of his book is that it's garbage. An endless stream of "and then I did this ... and then this happened ... and then I did that".
No real revelations about the WTS as he has none to share. The only possible insights he has, he doesn't mention - which is how the children of local presiding overseers don't have to live to the same rules that the regular attendees do.
Which is why what he left out about his JC is such a glaring omission and a big deal. There was definitely something he didn't want to come out, which has to be about him (otherwise why hide it?) and serous enough that he thought he could use it as leverage over them. Maybe something he did that was covered up? Who knows, we can only speculate on what may fit the information we can piece together.
He's a fraud, he was a fraud as a JW and now he's a fraud as an apostate. He also fakes being mr happy family man who cares about his wife and kids.
Yeah, you're not a family man if you're screwing hookers at the same time as your wife is expecting, however much it adds to your image for patreon fundraising.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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The title of his book is the giveaway of the reality: The Reluctant Apostate. He's not an "apostate" because he saw through and objected to anything, he's only an apostate because THEY got sick of HIM and kicked his fat lazy ass out so he couldn't keep taking advantage of the congregation for free labor (notice: he always has other people doing the actual work).
He didn't "see the truth", he lost his privileged position because he was a sleazy grubby man taking advantage of it and finally even daddy couldn't bail him out any more. How many people did he judge all while he was breaking the rules? Does he write about those? No, it's all him, him, him.
Next he'll be a reluctant ex-ex-JW, well, one can only hope ...
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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so what was the $20,000 “campaign” fund money even for?
To make even more money!
Think like Lloyd ... no shame, no morals, it's all a business and he wants to maximize his profits.
If he can take money off people, he will, whether the project really requires it or not, and whether they have less them him or not. There's always vacations and other things he can spend it on.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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You really can judge a person by the kind of company they keep. People tend to attract and be attracted to those with similar values.
If you look at your followers and supporters and see ugly attitudes, insults and outright rage, you should consider what kind of person you are attracting and why.
Now you see why Lloyd still has supporters. They are the same kind of horrible amoral character he is. To them, he's a hero, living the dream, telling them that their way is the right way. That's something they'll give money to support.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Simon
Good job on the wiki writeup Las Malvinas.
Now go play with your kids and dog! :)
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Rutherford's Coup
by RolRod ina new book on the events of the 1917 schism titled rutherford's coup is officially out on amazon.. authored by rud persson.
description.
raised a baptist, in 1906, joseph franklin rutherford, a provincial missouri attorney with a shrewd and scheming legal mind, became a baptized “bible student.” in 1907, rutherford became the legal counselor for the group's legally chartered corporation, the watch tower bible and tract society of pennsylvania.
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Simon
That can be typical for things that have a very narrow niche appeal.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Here's the only other thing of interest that I've found. By Googling this address from Cedars' envelope...
Something I find amazing. Say you're going to launch some super-important complex international libel case against multiple defendants. Do you:
a) Research which law firm has the very specific expertise in that particular area of law necessary to handle this, together with a recognized history of successful cases ...
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b) Go to the closest law-firm to you, ~20mins up the road, in a town of ~40k population?Just what are the chances that the closest lawyer to where you live also happens to be the best and most cost effective to handle seven cases of such complexity successfully?
Incredible luck, eh?!
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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He maybe kinda thought, 'if you leave the WT cult you can do anything you want - cheat on your wife with prostitutes, anything!'
I think he's surrounded himself with lots of people who believe that. They seem to believe that to truly reject the WTS you have to reject all that the WTS ever say. Like-people are often attracted to each other.
Sensible and mature people know that working on your marriage, being moral, being honest, not being abusive and similar things transcend any religious beliefs and edicts - they are simply good things to do if you are a good person.
You don't have to live opposite-life to be an exJW. You don't have to become a drug-taking, cheating, abusive jerk to show how wrong the WTS was. Who says something is irrelevant to the value of what is said. Some of what the WTS teach when it comes to lifestyle is sensible and good. Just because they repeat it doesn't make it wrong. In fact, if you want to show how wrong they are, you should aim to become a better person than the JW version of you.
But to be fair, from everything I've read about him it sounds like he didn't change when he left - he was already a wife-cheating sex pest while he was a JW and that's why they kicked him out.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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this thread has now become the most replied to post on JWN.
Infamy: noun, the state of being well known for some bad quality or deed.