Posts by Simon

The UK was never "frontier territory" where a gun was an important tool. We didn't have civil wars after modern guns were invented. Gun ownership has always been relatively rare so "controlling" it was simple and easy.

Any solution that involves magically disappearing all guns from existence is pointless to debate. Why not also solve it with magical invisible nano-bot bullet shields?

Assume any solution has to align with people having the right to own guns and work backward from there. The problem isn't really people having access to guns, because people have access to guns in lots of places, and there are not the same mass shooting incidents. Likewise, if guns used are already owned illegally, making more laws to make them even more illegal isn't going to do much.

Look at who does the shootings, why, what warning signs existed, who could & should have noticed them, who did but didn't act, and which politicians stand to benefit from mass-shooting events.

Who makes hay when the bullets fly? Who stands to gain? Who sets what policies and why? Who stops criminal accountability?

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Can you list the positive points of being a JW as against the negative points of being a JW in your experience ?

by smiddy3 in

i was a twenty y/old when i converted to the jw religion and was a problem drinker and i was a chain smoker .when i was baptized at a circuit assembly a year later , my conversion and change in lifestyle was given as an example of the effectiveness of incidental witnessing to the audience.. so i can point to the 2 positives becoming a jw .. 1.i gave up smoking.

2.i gave up drinking for a while ,but because i still had association with my wife`s and my family who were not jw`s ,i learnt to control my social drinking when i started again.. and i have been a responsible drinker ever since ,even though i left the religion 29 years ago.. the negative points of being a jw in my 32 years of being one ?

are far too great to list here .. love to hear your thoughts..

Simon

I can't think of a single positive experience that is unique to the JW faith

Likewise, they wouldn't be unique to whatever other group also instilled them.

There are good things I could point to from my time as a JW, but I could have gotten those from other religious (or possibly even secular) groups. And perhaps it would not have come with the baggage that I am left with.

Did you get them from those other groups? Unless you did, you have to thank the JW upbringing for them.

You may find that sticks in the throat, but trust me, it's healthier to give fair credit for the benefits than to only look for negatives.

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Can you list the positive points of being a JW as against the negative points of being a JW in your experience ?

by smiddy3 in

i was a twenty y/old when i converted to the jw religion and was a problem drinker and i was a chain smoker .when i was baptized at a circuit assembly a year later , my conversion and change in lifestyle was given as an example of the effectiveness of incidental witnessing to the audience.. so i can point to the 2 positives becoming a jw .. 1.i gave up smoking.

2.i gave up drinking for a while ,but because i still had association with my wife`s and my family who were not jw`s ,i learnt to control my social drinking when i started again.. and i have been a responsible drinker ever since ,even though i left the religion 29 years ago.. the negative points of being a jw in my 32 years of being one ?

are far too great to list here .. love to hear your thoughts..

Simon

The average naïve pro-Nazi individual in 20th century Europe probably enjoyed certain personal perks & benefits, and may have even transformed into a more disciplined person as a result of the ideology; yet any such personal betterment is blemished by crimes of the broader organisation and its leadership.

Did you honestly just compare the JWs to being nazis? Such a ridiculous claim. Totally unbalanced and unobjective.

The vast majority of JWs are there because they want to be good people, try to be good people, and I think are more law-abiding on average and certainly don't go around committing war-crimes.

These kind of comparison-claims just make us look like nutters.

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Can you list the positive points of being a JW as against the negative points of being a JW in your experience ?

by smiddy3 in

i was a twenty y/old when i converted to the jw religion and was a problem drinker and i was a chain smoker .when i was baptized at a circuit assembly a year later , my conversion and change in lifestyle was given as an example of the effectiveness of incidental witnessing to the audience.. so i can point to the 2 positives becoming a jw .. 1.i gave up smoking.

2.i gave up drinking for a while ,but because i still had association with my wife`s and my family who were not jw`s ,i learnt to control my social drinking when i started again.. and i have been a responsible drinker ever since ,even though i left the religion 29 years ago.. the negative points of being a jw in my 32 years of being one ?

are far too great to list here .. love to hear your thoughts..

Simon

There are lots of benefits to many traditional conservative religious upbringings:

You read a lot so tend to have a more advanced reading age which is very important for education.
You don't smoke or take drugs, and have lower rates of teen pregnancy and STDs
Less likely to drink-drive or commit other crimes.
Less likely to saddle yourself with high student debt for a useless degree
More likely to have a solid trade job

Life is often how you look at it.

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14 kids dead and one teacher at Texas school shooting.

by jojorabbit in

another shooting, this time 14 kids dead more wounded and a teacher dead.

i am all for the second amendment and this does not change my mind.

but i do hate this kind of thing, makes my stomach turn.

Simon

Other things to look at:

Why can't schools be secured? It kind of mirrors the border and bathrooms issue - just why can't we stop people who shouldn't be some place from being in that place?

There are a disproportionate number of attacks in public schools than private schools. Why is that? Is it because of the generally poor standards at government run institutions? Prevalence of bullying, poor attainment, poor discipline?

Jewish schools have security, because they are under higher threat, and they have fewer mass shooting attacks as a result. It can be done.

Don't tell me they don't have money as they can print and piss it away on anything else they want, especially wars.

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14 kids dead and one teacher at Texas school shooting.

by jojorabbit in

another shooting, this time 14 kids dead more wounded and a teacher dead.

i am all for the second amendment and this does not change my mind.

but i do hate this kind of thing, makes my stomach turn.

Simon

It's amazing how many mass shooters were actually on pharma med

Exactly. Can we shine a torch at the medical industry? They are the cause of a significant number of issues in society.

Doctors. Over prescribing. For money. Often to young kids.

Just wait till the new generation of kids who have been medically castrated grow up, angry, and bitter at what society did to them.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Simon

"Dear Mr Cedars, we noticed people have taken a dislike to you lately and no longer subscribe to your crap. Here are some things you can try to increase your patronage:

Stop talking about wanking, for the love of god!

Stop telling people you date hookers, WTF is wrong with you?

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14 kids dead and one teacher at Texas school shooting.

by jojorabbit in

another shooting, this time 14 kids dead more wounded and a teacher dead.

i am all for the second amendment and this does not change my mind.

but i do hate this kind of thing, makes my stomach turn.

Simon

Also, like most problems in society, I expect there will be a direct link to teachers unions.

But we all know that the "problem" presented depends on the perp. If it was a white guy, it would be all "white supremacy!!!" but it sounds like he's hispanic so it's "gun control!!!!"

If it turns out the guns he used were already illegal it will be ... erm, what exactly? I forget what the stock response is in that case. Make them more illegal?

When do we talk about societal problems, over prescribing of drugs on kids, the general promotion of constant rage and anger by the left for whatever distraction they want people to focus on and the constant overbearing government control.

Just wondering.

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14 kids dead and one teacher at Texas school shooting.

by jojorabbit in

another shooting, this time 14 kids dead more wounded and a teacher dead.

i am all for the second amendment and this does not change my mind.

but i do hate this kind of thing, makes my stomach turn.

Simon

Q: How many kids does the left support being aborted each year? Is it more than 14?

Q: I thought "mass shootings" reflected on the President, I'm pretty sure I heard that once. Is it still the case?

Q: Would the dems trade a ban on abortion for a ban on guns? If not, why not?

No one wants a solution, as it involves compromise on their fanaticism.

Discuss ...