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  14 kids dead and one teacher at Texas school shooting.

  by jojorabbit in

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  another shooting, this time 14 kids dead more wounded and a teacher dead.

  i am all for the second amendment and this does not change my mind.

  but i do hate this kind of thing, makes my stomach turn.

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  the proliferation of "shooter" computer games ( which desensitises the action)

  Links to video games have been debunked so many times now.

  These kind of incidents are simply going to repeat constantly as there are always madmen / criminals around and the easily availability of guns means they can kill a lot of people in a short time and with the police being armed , they often guarantee their own death in a macabre murder / suicide death wish. Sadly it is something Americans just have to accept , and , in fact , incidents like this just increase the chance of copycat events.

  I agree that the TV media and also social media have made things worse and I believe are now some of the biggest additional drivers for the epidemic of shootings.

  As for the police, I saw an article that had analyzed shootings and apparently the number of people killed before a shooter is shot by police is around 14 but the number killed before they are shot by an armed citizen is around 2.

  It appears in this case the police were already engaging but them sat back for reinforcements to arrive.

  If the plan is for everyone to be unarmed and have to wait for the police ... well, it's a bad plan. An example of how stopping law-abiding citizens from having guns could make things worse.
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  14 kids dead and one teacher at Texas school shooting.

  by jojorabbit in

  1. social
  2. current

  another shooting, this time 14 kids dead more wounded and a teacher dead.

  i am all for the second amendment and this does not change my mind.

  but i do hate this kind of thing, makes my stomach turn.

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  Actually, it has. The event is generally referred to as "The Eureka Rebellion" or the "Eureka Stockade".

  Not sure a one day event with 27 dead really qualifies as a "war", more like a violent protest and evidence of why civilians need to be armed to protect themselves from their government.
  
  
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  14 kids dead and one teacher at Texas school shooting.

  by jojorabbit in

  1. social
  2. current

  another shooting, this time 14 kids dead more wounded and a teacher dead.

  i am all for the second amendment and this does not change my mind.

  but i do hate this kind of thing, makes my stomach turn.

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  It's like banning cars to solve car accidents.

  Technically, it would work, but with a giant humongous "IF" everyone agreed to it. The reality is they wouldn't. Same with limiting cars to 10mph ... not gonna fly.

  But what we can do is decide that certain areas need to have speeds controlled to enhance protection. Such as schools.

  Now, do they just put up a sign saying not to speed? NO! Because without enforcement it's pointless. They point radar guns at you every chance they get.

  So they can assign police to protect children ... from motorists.
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  UFO's or Unidentified Aerial Fenomena....

  by mikeflood in

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  what do you guys think....the topic seems to being on fashion lately.

  some in the borg told me one time "of course, they are for real, they could be angels, demons".. .

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  That's a story he came up with when his wife found a long platinum-white hair on his shoulder and a ginger pube in his undies.

  Or was he paid for it?
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  14 kids dead and one teacher at Texas school shooting.

  by jojorabbit in

  1. social
  2. current

  another shooting, this time 14 kids dead more wounded and a teacher dead.

  i am all for the second amendment and this does not change my mind.

  but i do hate this kind of thing, makes my stomach turn.

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  Gun control does work.

  Again, you can't take a law and simply transplant it somewhere else and expect the equivalent outcomes.

  Has Australia had a revolutionary war? An armed civil war? Are Australians constitutionally granted the right to bear arms? How many guns were owned before and after the controls?

  It's not as simple as just saying "oh, ban them, problem solved". Who collects all the guns for instance?

  If gun control works, why were there still 2,519 (adjusted) gun deaths?

  You're making an assumption that if you remove a lot of guns from society, that the number of gun deaths is guaranteed to go down and couldn't go up.
  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  original reddit post (removed).

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  I don’t want Tibor to be unemployed.

  I wonder if he'll still be considered one of the "gracious class" if he gets himself a proper job and tells Lloyd to shove it?
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  14 kids dead and one teacher at Texas school shooting.

  by jojorabbit in

  1. social
  2. current

  another shooting, this time 14 kids dead more wounded and a teacher dead.

  i am all for the second amendment and this does not change my mind.

  but i do hate this kind of thing, makes my stomach turn.

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  Bullying at school, social isolation, drug-addicted mother, absent father, self-injury, random acts and statements of violence...

  https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/05/25/uvalde-texas-school-shooting-gunman/

  I wonder what the school did about the bullying? Or if they did anything ...
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  14 kids dead and one teacher at Texas school shooting.

  by jojorabbit in

  1. social
  2. current

  another shooting, this time 14 kids dead more wounded and a teacher dead.

  i am all for the second amendment and this does not change my mind.

  but i do hate this kind of thing, makes my stomach turn.

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  So you were creating the type of thing you say other people shouldn't have? Doesn't sound too logical.
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  14 kids dead and one teacher at Texas school shooting.

  by jojorabbit in

  1. social
  2. current

  another shooting, this time 14 kids dead more wounded and a teacher dead.

  i am all for the second amendment and this does not change my mind.

  but i do hate this kind of thing, makes my stomach turn.

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  Simon

  A military style weapon.

  So it's about styling? So the exact same weapon with a polished wooden stock would be "OK"?

  Higher than needed mags.

  I believe high-capacity magazines are already illegal in most places.

  I had an SKS converted I had not much use for it.

  I don't know what that is, what does the conversion entail and why if you didn't have much use for it?

  Are you a gun owner? I understand. I like guns. I'm just troubled by what's going down.

  I've owned guns and like shooting. People should be taught gun safety, it used to be taught in schools in the US and kids would bring their guns into school without incident. That was before it was prevents ... to make things "safer".

  I think most people are troubled by what has happened. But what we need are real solutions that will prevent it, not opportunistic politicians taking advantage of a tragedy to push an agenda that's been shown to make things worse.

  Reminder: this is a terrible event but far more people were shot and killed that day and every day in places where gun control is pushed as the solution.
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  14 kids dead and one teacher at Texas school shooting.

  by jojorabbit in

  1. social
  2. current

  another shooting, this time 14 kids dead more wounded and a teacher dead.

  i am all for the second amendment and this does not change my mind.

  but i do hate this kind of thing, makes my stomach turn.

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  I live here, have done for 66 yrs . We are not scared of guns or knives.

  Is that because you not in an area of high knife crime or one of their target demographic? If you were a young male living in an inner city area it might be more of a concern.

  It is a fact that you are less likely to be murdered by any means in the UK than in the US

  I don't think people care how they are killed and it's unfair to compare the UK with the US. There are places in the UK that are far more dangerous than some places in the US. The UK does not have the same problems that the US has and vice versa.

  Yes you could secure schools but should a civilised society have to do that?

  Yes, they should. Shouldn't protecting kids be higher up than protecting banks, shopping malls, politicians etc...?

  What would the downside of protecting them be? (other than the loss of democratic talking point)

  You can't secure shops and restaurants .

  No, but then they are not as likely to be filled with vulnerable small children. They may even contain other people with guns. Mass shootings frequently target gun-free zones for a reason.