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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Simon

Probably pre-recorded and only just released.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Simon

Sorry, let's not link to his videos and send him any traffic or backlinks unless it's something really relevant.

(I know, I asked for the tomato video above, but for a specific reason)

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Simon

To date there is only a video of him growing tomatoes. Does he know how to grow potatoes?

Does anyone have the link to that video / channel? There was something I needed to check with some accounts ...

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Simon

It's tiring just following this endless stream of events, imagine being at the centre of it all. How does he even get up in the morning?

The useless, time wasting, energy sapping futility of it all. How can he sip his coffee and think; "yep, this is the life I want".

I can't imagine living like that. At some point you have to realize that it's not worth it, and most people have other far more valuable things to focus their energy on. But he's made it his life, job and entire ego, all tied together, so he can't let go.

Chasing down every perceived slight or criticism (99% deserved). Fabricating illusions of a 'legal team', building lone warrior fantasies about taking on the might of a religious cult. What kind of Messiah complex accounts for all of this?

I think going for the Jesus hair and beard was jumping the shark. But it's all part of the "must live JW opposite life" which is silly and shows a degree of immaturity (but lots of people do it).

It will all be over one day and I genuinely hope he survives it all and finds some peace.

I don't think he's sensitive or caring enough about his actions and how they affect others to ever do anything to himself out of a sense of shame or remorse. His claims of mental illness always appear to be an act, because it's a convenient get-out when he's been caught doing something.

He really needs to be gone though, he's generating heat, not light. He's crowded out and shouted down so many individuals who would otherwise be providing their own unique voices to help enquiring JW's.

So many people did a better job of actually helping others move on with their lives (and still do, but many sadly gave up and we lost out as a community because of him). He wants people to perpetually wallow in exJWism, paying him to produce the antiJW porn they become obsessed with. All for profit.

We used to grease each others wheels, we still do to an extent. Evans only adds friction to the community, he never helps out anyone unless it helps him more.

The exJW community has never been great, there have always been divisions and factions (lots of damaged people who don't sort themselves out) but he does seem to be a perpetual focal point behind much of it since he arrived on the scene and worse, he encourages it.

This is why he needs to be humiliated so he goes away and never comes back. Until that happens, he'll stay around to keep filling his pockets from the fresh noobs who don't know about his past, are fooled by numerous slick videos and don't really heal and move on.

For the sake of your sanity Lloyd, for the sake of your daughters and your long suffering wife, just call it a day.

That would mean caring about someone else over his own ego. I just can't see that ever happening. For all his claims of caring about his wife and kids his actions show that he doesn't, and they are just a useful prop for fundraising off of. He even drops their names in videos while he's talking about seeing hookers. Gross.

It'll be the best decision you ever made.

His track record is not one of good decision making. So I don't think anyone should hold their breath waiting.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Simon

What I don't understand is in most countries if you make a criminal complaint it's up to the cops/public prosecutor to take the complaint further if they think a law has been broken and a conviction is likely. If it isn't and it's not even in the public interest to take it further (it costs the public purse money), it doesn't even get as far as a judge. I don't get it.

It's Croatia where disputes are settled by all parties selecting some potatoes and marching into a field where the potatoes are thrown at their opponents. If neither party is unconscious, it's up to a judge to appoint a winner.

But the loser gets to keep the potatoes.

Oh no, I've insulted the glorious nation of Croatia. I now live in fear and trepidation of being charged and found guilty in my absence and my future visits limited.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Simon

Love how he tries to "big up" himself as though he is some legal god that has stood up to even a $multi-billion mighty cult.

But here's the thing: the WTS is the tamest of adversaries. The only thing they appear to care about and take action on is clear copyright violations. Other than that, you can pretty much say or do anything and they are pretty passive.

So no, Lloyd, it's not like you're fighting Scientologists. You're fighting pacifists. The worst that happens is you get a copyright strike and have to take something down that wasn't yours anyway.

Stop thinking you're Braveheart.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

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Simon

You said that the source was 100% verifiable and not only that but it has also been verified. I am simply asking you, the person making the claim, how and by whom it's been verified.

There are ways to reason on things even if you don't have all the evidence.

Consider if it was faked. The person faking it can't just hope that someone one day stumbles on it, it could never be found. They would either have to release it themselves OR tell someone else to go check it out.

So it comes down to whether the person saying "I came across this when *I* registered on a dating site" is telling the truth or not. I have no reason to believe or disbelieve them, but I doubt the scenario that "someone made it up and just hoped someone else would find it and then someone did happen to find it" to be realistic.

But knowing what I do of Lloyd Evans, the fact that he's once again left his wife and children to go holiday alone, and appears to have been trying to contact women for meetups, does totally match his behavior of the last 4-5 years (that he's recently admitted to, longer for his sexual indiscretions and cheating).

Of course, it could have been made up and the person reporting it is part of the fraud, but if people vouch for them, what would they have to gain vs what would they have to lose? There is no reason to do it.

I certainly wouldn't trade my reputation just to take a cheap shot at Lloyd, however dislikable he is. But if I came across something that would be embarrassing to him with no reason to doubt it's validity I would tell everyone about it.

So that is what I believe the situation is. If people I trust are saying "I trust this person" then I think it's real. Other things (like Marko) also seem to match his MO but have more question marks over them because of how they were revealed and to who.

Dijana said she has no such relative. Mark O'Donnell also said "Marko" is not a relative.

I don't believe what either say, for different reasons. I don't know if it's really Dijana saying anything or being coerced to say something. I don't see how Mark O'Donnell would be any expert on Dijana's family tree and think when he said that he was pretty much in bed with Lloyd which makes his opinion about Lloyd less credible and it more likely to be something he's repeating from Lloyd. So the claim may as well be "Lloyd said ..." in both cases.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Simon

Most of us (including myself) have this belief that he knows exactly what he is doing, it could be the case he doesn't and that is the scary thing about all this. If he has no idea wnat he is doing, that could actually be very dangerous.

I don't think anyone believes he doesn't know what he's doing, the key thing is he doesn't appear to see anything wrong with it or feel any remorse, like he lacks morals, not that he's broken any moral code. i.e. he's amoral as well as immoral.

All he seems to feel is anger and resentment if he's be inconvenienced, challenged or caught doing something. Nothing todo with shame or remorse for the act itself, just the consequences of people's reactions to it. He's angry at losing patreons and the money, and doesn't see anything really wrong with what he's done.

I can only speak for myself, but I suspect most people would be similar: not only would we never even think of visiting prostitutes in the first place but if we had, having it come out and telling the world about it would be so shame inducing I don't think I'd ever leave my house, let alone talk about it to the world on YouTube.

He has to have no shame whatsoever to do that. He can't have any real sense of the hurt he's caused his wife and the damage it does to his kids, because if someone did, how would they keep at it so regularly for 4+ years?

Instead, we get an act. He knows what a normal person is supposed to react like, so we get a poorly-acted version of it. But it's off, slightly odd, because the real feelings don't appear to be there.

This appears to have been his entire life. Living as a fraud, knowing how he's meant to behave but never believing it, never living up to it, and then always excusing what he's done and seeing no shame for anything. His book is hardly the work of someone who sounds "repressed" in any way, it sounds more like someone with no controls over their behavior.

For most people, the potential shame or embarrassment of being immoral helps temper their behavior. He doesn't appear to have that switch.

I don't know if it's common for that to be a factor in men seeing women as objects to be used. I suspect there is some element involved as you have to no care about other people's feelings as most as you don't care about their opinions of you.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Simon

If someone could view the actual date that dating-site account was created, and messages posted from it, that would serve as verification. If any predate the announcement that he's going to London or were made close to the same time, I'd take that to be him, not someone faking it.

At this point, why would anyone fake anything? There's no need - you just have to watch the guy stumble to his next fuck-up.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Simon

"I promised my wife 'no more hookers' so ... hello speed-dating site, because 'me so smart' ... wait, I can't get a ticket? Someone, anyone, meet me for a drink! Who ever heard of first-come first-served for a ticketed event? Oh, everyone?"

What a pathetic excuse for a man, and what an eedjit!

I hope someone in Croatia is changing some locks right now.