The amount of medical "facts" that turn out to be fraud is utterly criminal.
It's because big $$$ is involved. Remember that next time you're told to "trust the science".
It's still mostly a profession of charlatans and butchers.
"the chemical imbalance theory of depression is still put forward by professionals, and the serotonin theory, in particular, has formed the basis of a considerable research effort over the last few decades.
the general public widely believes that depression has been convincingly demonstrated to be the result of serotonin or other chemical abnormalities, and this belief shapes how people understand their moods, leading to a pessimistic outlook on the outcome of depression and negative expectancies about the possibility of self-regulation of mood""read: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1m92v7hb0njm2mnvnu6nv0kpnkzloe-_k4crh_wphpti/edit?usp=sharing.
The amount of medical "facts" that turn out to be fraud is utterly criminal.
It's because big $$$ is involved. Remember that next time you're told to "trust the science".
It's still mostly a profession of charlatans and butchers.
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For $0.50c he'll do the truffle shuffle
the bible records resurrections and there is orher evidence besides that gives hope.
what do you think, is there enough evidence to believe in another life?.
The Bible records resurrections
No it doesn't. It contains baseless stories.
and there is orher evidence besides that gives hope.
No there isn't, if there was you could point to it.
What do you think, is there enough evidence to believe in another life?
There's only stories and wishful thinking I'm afraid.
when a bank fails, it is legal for that lending institution to perform a "bail-in" (rather than a bailout) for itself.. .
the first sign or signal to the depositor is a red flag moment easy to recognize.
the atm is "out of cash"..
Your money? It's their money - you're just a creditor. There's no guarantee you will get your money back, you may get an "equivalent" of shared issued by the bank-that-went-bust (imagine how valuable those would be!)
One of the reasons double-entry accounting is so confusing is we're so used to seeing accounting entries from the banks perspective.
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Ultimately, people are responsible for their own lives.
If they want to believe some scammer and send all their money to a Nigerian prince because they didn't bother to research, that's on them. Same with Lloyd, if someone decides to become a "follower" without doing their due diligence then more fool them.
The information is available for those who take the time to look. It's not our job to save anyone from him, any more than it's our job to save anyone from the WTS. We share what we know and the experiences we've had, and people can make their own decisions.
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You come across as a bit of a fuddy duddy. My impression is that you couldn't ignore the fact that the JW's are wrong doctrinally so you left, but you still basically agree with the Victorian values and Puritan methods of enforcement.
No. I'm just not so simplistic in my thinking to follow "WTS say bad, so me say good!" like I'm a fucking caveman. There's nuance. A significant amount of what they say is basic common sense and good morals that are beneficial to follow. It doesn't make you puritanical to recognize and retain those values. I have no problem with people having pre-marital sex for instance, or being gay, but I think having many casual sexual partners is more likely to be unhealthy both physically and mentally. I have no problem with people smoking pot or taking other drugs, but I think it should be limited / controlled (esp. when young) and most stronger drugs discouraged and warned about.
Being honest, having a good work ethic, being faithful to my wife - these are all "values" I have. I happen to think I have them because I try to be a good person, and I like to do the right thing. If you make things like this "leftover WTS beliefs" then you are effectively saying that you cannot be a good person without them, and that they have a monopoly on being decent. I think that is a rather messed up and imbalanced outlook to have. But like I've already said, too many leave the WTS and think they have to live some "opposite life" to prove they are really out. I think it's mental and self-damaging, the best revenge is to show that you are a better person without them.
The whole, most people who are ex JW's were rightfully kicked out due to their dirty sins and only looked into the false doctrine aspect afterwards. (BTW, this has nothing to do with the Lloyd thing. I'm in agreement that cheating on your wife with prostitutes is the definition of slime)
But that isn't what I said, is it? I note your use of a word I didn't use and you even emphasized it, to suggest I said something I didn't.
Im not trying to pick a fight. Just describing how you come across to me. If i've completely misread you, then I apologize.
Well, it does seem like it's intentional because you have repeatedly changed what I said to misrepresent it. I suggest you stop doing that.
i thought it was just me that had a negative view of people who proclaim themselves to be activists.. but no, it seems i'm not alone!.
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It's not activism that most ex JWs provide, it's support, encouragement and exposure.
It's also not what most current or exiting JWs need - again, that would be support and encouragement.
For instance, I gather Simon wouldn't consider himself an activist
Correct. I think one key part is that I have no desire to "make" people leave the WTS. Why would I? What right do I have to try to force someone else to follow my beliefs? If they are happy, leave them be. I remember many many years ago being in a chatroom (are they still a thing?) with some current-JW who was telling me how wonderful and helpful the local congregation members were helping her with her severely disabled child in an isolated community (I think it was Australia). Should I have told her "it's all lies, flee to the outback immediately!"? I didn't, because I didn't think she needed saving from anything - the local religious group was working exactly as they should in that case. Even if I had been aggressive trying to convince her it was all lies, would it have helped? Would it have accomplished anything or just made her feel attacked and maybe upset?
IMO this is why "activist" has such negative connotations. Fundamentally, for all the noise, they end up supporting the thing they claim to be against. Nothing makes me want to get in a car and drive than a climate activist (even more so if they are willing to lie in front of the car). Nothing makes me want to eat a burger more than hearing a vegetarian activist. Nothing would have made me less inclined to leave the WTS when I did than someone aggressively harassing me for being in, or ridiculing me for who I was.
Many times (not always) an "activist" is really doing things to work out their own anger, not to actively help anyone or even stop the thing they claim to be active against. Sometimes it's just an excuse for someone to be a dick.
i thought it was just me that had a negative view of people who proclaim themselves to be activists.. but no, it seems i'm not alone!.
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I thought it was just me that had a negative view of people who proclaim themselves to be activists.
But no, it seems I'm not alone!
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It's a shame that some people seem to be totally dependent on others.
If I could recommend anything, it's that YOU be responsible for your own life. If you have people in your life that love you and / or that you love, that's great. But you shouldn't be dependent on others for your emotional well-being.
The danger is that when you're at a low point, you end up depending on the wrong person who will just see you as an opportunity to use.
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I'm sorry that this is so long. I hope it is clear enough to read. I think the discussion about morals is very interesting. I hope it could make the people who defend Lloyd Evans understand a bit better why people want him to step back from is activism.
That was an excellent summation of the key component of all this - why Kim had a duty (qualified privilege) to reveal what he was doing, to protect the vulnerable, and why he has no business being around vulnerable young women.