Twitter is a shit system with biased moderation. If you tried to design a system to cause bad feeling and division, it's hard to imagine you could come up with anything worse.
It's easily weaponized by people like Lloyd.
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11530It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Bullied At School
by Lost in the fog injust curious about the rest of you.
i was bullied quite badly throughout my school years because of being a witness and not participating in religious holidays, sporting celebrations, assembly (worship), and the like.. it was mostly from other pupils but there were a couple of teachers who definitely treated me badly.
that was back when uk teachers still caned pupils or were allowed to hurl the heavy wooden blackboard duster across the room at them.... i still have ptsd flashbacks on some of those events even after 50 years!
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Simon
Yeah, I remember being bullied at school and it does stick with you. Making your kid go through school as a JW is cruel and unloving - anything that makes you stand out as "weird and different" is like waving a flag saying "pick on me!".
Public schools are the only place most people will ever encounter real violence. That and prison. Both usually badly run by the government. I think there's a decent chance that the bullies end up in prison later in life. I like the thought of that.
I wasn't bullied after I went all "Rocky Balboa" on a kid who was picking on me during a class (literally, everyone was chanting "Rocky! Rocky! Rocky!"). I got sent to see the head of year who also happened to be my English teacher. She started saying "so you two boys have been fighting in cla ...", looked up and exclaimed "Simon?!". She then asked me what happened, I told her, she gave the other kid detention and I was sent back to class (to another chorus of "Rocky! Rocky!" chants). He objected that he hadn't said his side and she said "what would the point be of hearing you lie? I've already heard what actually happened". There are benefits to the "honest" reputation after all.
In the playground one of the tough kids came up to me saying "I heard you beat (whatever his name was) up in class?" and I thought "uh oh!" ... after a timid nod he face lit up and he said "nice one! I heard it was awesome!".
That was my short-lived career as a fighter.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Simon
JLE Publishing is no longer located at his dad’s home in Wilmslow. They have changed addresses two times.
Doesn't appear to be the setup of anyone being shunned.
Fake exJW
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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they did at one point try to shut him down
Again, we need to stop going off what he claims. Just because he makes a video saying "the WatchTower is trying to silence me" does not mean they are. He's simply got a bog-standard copyright takedown request and tried to turn it into a martyrdom, aka, a fund-raising opportunity.
I've had a few DMCA takedown notices from the WTS over the years. I don't shout about it because it's not really a big deal and soliciting donations on the back of it wouldn't change anything so IMO would be immoral. I think I complied with a couple and not with one, but nothing else came of it. They don't appear particularly over-eager to shut anyone down from what I've seen - they use the law to protect their copyrights which is what anyone needs to do to keep control and rights over their material. Lloyd seems to be far more eager to "shut people down"
The WTS are not Scientology, however much he tries to make out otherwise.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Simon
P.S. Simon might go in and post some kind of disclaimer above that little video, saying that, by their comments, this Thread’s participants aren’t convinced of the video’s authenticity.
No need. Whatever anyone posts is their view - unless someone specifically says otherwise we don't agree or disagree with anything. No need to add any endorsement or non-endorsement notices to anything.
“Seeing”, “dating”, “meeting”. What’s next? “Consulting”, “entertaining”, “encountering”? So, ... do I have this straight? He dates SWs, but doesn’t always take advantage of all the services they offer?
You have to think with "Lloyd Logic" ... remember how he claims that money spent goes into separate distinct buckets? Like Patreon money and Google Ads money, and whatever is spent is always from someplace else so isn't being funded by ... you get the idea.
Same with his hookers. He could be "dating" a hooker, paying for meals, transport, gifts, anything and everything and then pretend that's a separate "bucket" of money and nothing at all todo with them sleeping with him.
In his warped mind, that means he's dated them, not hired them and paid for sex.
Of course he's also a lying shit so why do we bother with anything he says? It's all bullshit to weasel his way out of whatever awkward situation his previous lies got him in.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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As for being "controlled opposition". You can be damaging to a cause (so ultimately beneficial to the "enemy") without any paid or organized collusion.
I think this is a more accurate description of the situation. He's elbowed people out of the way, silenced other voices, and then discredited himself - living up to the caricature of how an apostate will behave once they "leave the truth".
If you become a poster child that the WTS can use to say "see, look how people fall apart when they leave - abusing their spouse by using prostitutes ..." then there doesn't need to be an ongoing relationship or any "control" for that person to affectively be opposition to the very thing they claim to be fighting for or supporting.
But I don't think the overly-dramatic video helps or is really convincing. Like Evans, it probably does more harm than good, so personally I would distance myself from it. Things like that chip away at your credibility and reflect on your judgement IMO.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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this was the residence he rented after earthquake, from is youtube I received another shunagram jan.11.2021 RANT.
Gosh he looks like a serial killer in that picture lol. Actually, he looks exactly like how the wt depicts crazy apostates
Gotta say, he's really nailed the "mad-monk Rasputin look"
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Would you still be angry with Lloyd Evans ?
by BettyHumpter inif instead of thailand, he had gone to a place where its legal and (supposedly) has some sort of oversight to prevent exploitation?
like nevada in the u.s or amsterdam in europe?
would the being unfaithful part still be a deal breaker as far as supporting his channel?
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It would be slightly less bad - on the scale of normal to dumb-fuckery, he'd move the needle by the width of the needle.
But he didn't and he wasn't (single), so what's the point of the moral relativism?
The combination of supposed CSR advocate using significantly younger prostitutes in high-trafficked countries while married and then the arrogant claims that there was no wrong done and it's no one's business? Priceless.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Real pics from the event (taken from their event FB page): (I don't see Jabba the Hutt anywhere. Maybe he's being a punter again)
Back to meetups in car-parks ...
Too soon?
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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He constantly refers to Kim as "retired lawyer" so ... retired = no-longer working. Unless he signed a contract of engagement, she wasn't representing him in any legal capacity.
He's clutching at straws, or rather, throwing mud in the hope that it gives the appearance of some impropriety.