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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  The only way certain people will trust that the Lloyd/Dijana correspondence is real is if Lloyd or Dijana come out and confirm it in some way.

  Those people can't think logically.

  I learned from that experience to trust Kim S. as a source.

  Exactly. Kim has verified they are genuine. This doesn't mean Kim leaked them, it means Kim was sent them by Dijana at some point so is able to confirm their authenticity. It doesn't mean Kim had to be the only recipient of them so she is able to confirm they are genuine without being the leaker.

  Simple logic.

  And neither Lloyd or Dijana can accuse anyone of leaking anything without also confirming they are genuine. Which is why there is silence from them, and they have to resort to making anonymized attempts to claim they are fake and to spread doubt.

  The messages have been confirmed. They are real. Anonymous accounts claiming they are not are either Lloyd or people associated with him (like his loyal little lap-dog Tibor).
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Lloyd / Lloyds Monkey - Fuck off!

  If that source isn't posting anything that's false and has been given access to the letter by LE or Dijana then why not just come out and say who they are and how they got access to the letters. The only person who would hide is someone who's afraid of being sued for spreading lies.

  Totally Lloyd, always the same: "I demand to know who you are" followed by "to the litigation mobile!"

  Doing your own anonymous attempt at defence by spreading FUD is all you have left, you loser.

  What are the chances someone not-Lloyd or not-connected-with Lloyd just happens to be posting from Zagreb and has an email address that makes reference to the name "marko"? Stop trying to make out you're some "independent thinker" that just happens to watch some of his videos.

  No wonder you fell for those grooming emails, which were so painfully fake that a kid would see right through them

  You're suddenly also very keen to throw in claims that those are fake too, after we know the latest messages you also claim to be fake have been confirmed to be real? I'm not sure someone who "knew" they were fake would be quite so concerned about them - this convinces me more that they are likely real.
  

  Q: Are you a rapist or friends with a rapist?
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Dijana was quick on the button to jump on Twitter to say the emails weren't real last time

  "Someone using Dijana's account was quick on the button to jump on Twitter to say the emails weren't real last time."

  Fixed it for you ;)
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Yes, you can't definitively say they are, but they are certainly credible and would have to show some god-level prescience if invented.

  Maybe one day Dijana will tell everyone, they would have had to come from her as far as I can tell. I could see him holding her silence over her as a threat, as being part of a coverup, but the reality is it's unlikely he'd be prosecuted for any crime without a victim and I doubt the police would bother to investigate given the time.

  But there would really be no risk to her and if she wants to torpedo his reputation for good, that would do it.

  Which is why I think ultimately they are a perfectly matched dysfunctional couple. She's there because she likes the lifestyle and $$$ ... because why, otherwise, would anyone tolerate that chump?
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  She did appear to be the source of the photos that Evans had taken with his "date" in Thailand. But without corroboration, it's a lot like those nasty texts purported to be between him and a teenaged girl. Damning, if true, but something that serious needs to be confirmed IMO.

  Just as you can immediately match something with Lloyds typical modus operandi, this seems to be Dijana's M.O. which is why it seemed obviously legit even before it was confirmed and I think it would be very difficult for someone to write so much and get it so perfect as "Lloyd" (so Occam's Razor - it's real). It's why I also think the texts are also legit, because they match subsequent events and behaviours by both of them.

  "I believe to a large part you are controlled by hang-ups that have been instilled in you by your cult upbringing and societal norms regarding monogamy, but that’s not something I blame you for."

  But not himself, right? He's the totally balanced and level-headed one?!

  And a typical Lloydism: "but that’s not something I blame you for" he says, while totally blaming her ...

  This is why he should not be offering advice to people leaving the WTS, because his own leaving has been an abject failure and he has warped views on so many things.

  And of course why no one should be listening to him for advice - he's not a level-headed serious thinker.

  It's like getting financial advice from someone bankrupt or deep in debt - why would you listen to someone who can't walk-the-walk and failed at the process themselves?

  If you can't sort out your own shit, why do you think anyone should listen to your "advice"?
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Wow. That letter sounds completely legit. It's full of Lloyds warped reasonings, twisted logic, linguistic tricks and complete gaslighting (him accusing her of gaslighting? the icing on top ...).

  His "logic" for how something isn't really 'cheating', and turning her requests not to cheat in the car (i.e. shared spaces) into her "being unreasonable"? Incredible ...

  But such utter failures as parents, the pair of them. I have no sympathy for women who spend their time with losers because of $ or laziness or both.

  BTW: I just love that Lloyd spends so much of his time doom-scrolling, probably trying to read and police every comment or mention of himself. Enjoy your pathetic life Lloyd - the WTS still owns you, and now so do we! :)
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  I wonder if any of his flying monkeys would openly admit if they would go to a prostitute for sex?

  I suspect a higher proportion than should be typical (from a random sampling of exJWs). Part of why these people like him is that he validates their own lack of morality. He's their poster-boy as he makes such behavior "acceptable" (in their heads, not in reality).

  I judge everyone who continues to supports him after hearing about his history, and those who continue to support him without bothering to find out if there's any fire despite so much smoke.
  
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  Dalai Lama asking boy to suck his tongue after kissing the child on his lips.

  by ExBethelitenowPIMA in

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  the dalai lama has apologised after footage showed him asking a boy if he wanted to suck the tibetan spiritual leader's tongue.. .

  his office said he wanted to apologise to the child and his family "for the hurt his words may have caused".. .

  the video also shows the dalai lama kissing the child on his lips.. soon after the pope alleged peodo activity .

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  Just another sick pedo that needs to be put down.

  Ask yourself: if they do that when surrounded by people, with cameras ... what do they do in private? How many victims?
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  One of Lloyds biggest lie is trying to make out that it's "human" to visit sex workers.

  It would be convenient for him if this was true, but the reality is that most men do not visit prostitutes. It's not normal, it's not typical, and it's not just "being human".

  Most women are not prostitutes. Most men are not rapists.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  I was accused of going to Thailand for sex tourism when I was actually on a mental health break.

  Ah, the linguistic tricks. I don't believe there was any "mental health" involved, that's just a cover story for sympathy. But even if there were, it's possible for both things to be true at the same time - Lloyd went for a break AND sex tourism.

  I mean, he's not actually denied that he had sex with at least one sex worker while he was there, has he?

  "dated a sex worker" is another linguistic trick to try to change the reality of what he did.

  But I sort of had a job offer to do a job. I know I would have hated
  

  Of course you would have hated it Lloyd, it would involve actual work!

  Bemoaning that he "has" to do the exJW stuff when it's entirely his own choice to do so.