i see this phrase a lot: "the indication of a cult is what happens when you leave.
" i'm not sure where that originated, but it is a faulty categorization.
"cult" is almost always used in a derogatory way.
I think most people's definition of "cult" is that they believe whacky things and often have the idea that the end times are coming soon. But then most religions would fit that.
I don't think JWs are what most people would recognize to be a cult, high-control, but not really extreme - just a variation of the regular christian belief system.
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Photo 1 - Lloyd looking thoughtful and contemplative: "so that's your price for an hour ... and it's the lowest you can possibly go?"
Photo 2 - Lloyd pondering: "can I claim this as a business expense and also spin it to the patreons so they'll fund it?"
Photo 3 - Lloyd looking concerned that the girl wasn't trafficked ... no one has been able to capture a shot of that.
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As someone mentioned earlier - "I can't be expected to control myself" is the rapists "excuse" (not an excuse at all). It's BS. It's always a choice.
It's a choice to regularly cheat, and to use prostitutes, and to do it in countries with real problems of sex-trafficking and sex-tourists who don't care about the victims.
Any "activism" you might do for CSA victims starts to look more like an effort to clean your ledger or worse, a way to access vulnerable people. The least worst option is that it was just an opportunity to profit financially and turn it into a money-making endeavour.
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my guess would be that he is in therapy
Nah, that would require some amount of introspection. If he ever did go to therapy, he'd end up threatening that the therapist will be added to the litigation unless they affirm his opinion about everything.
He won't close his patreon - he has control of it and it's free money. He'll post the odd excuse of why he's unable to produce any videos because he's so busy since, erm, he shut down his company ... wouldn't he have more free time? odd right, almost like it's all bullshit!
Remember the scene from Liar Liar, where Jim Carey have blue pen written all over his face? I need to make one of Lloyd but with "Kim!" instead.
Sorry Kim, we're making you into a meme.
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I don’t think, based on Lloyd’s very recent behaviour, that Tibor’s exit was “mutual”
Me neither. My thinking is simpler - Lloyd does nothing but lie, it's endless. I've known other people like that who lie even when there is no real reason to, about things that are unimportant - they seem to do it because they get a kick out of "getting away with fooling people". If he's claiming something, he's most likely lying. So if he says "mutual", it means he either didn't want to pay him or Tibor didn't want to work for him, the only "mutual" involved in that is likely contrived, such as if Tibor didn't want to work for less money.
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My two cents, as I said earlier. I sense that the strike of the court system in Croatia is ending soon and Lloyd knows already that the result of his frivolous lawsuit is becoming public. So he's trying to withdraw from the public. Keeping only YouTube where he can delete any comment he doesn't like.
This. Exactly this.
He knows there are going to be awkward questions and he simply can't answer them, so he's running away to the only platform he can delete other people's comments.
What a pussy.
As for people using his daughters name? HE did that while talking about his sexual indiscretions and regular use of prostitutes!
Just as when it comes to copyright, he's a complete hypocrite and wants a completely different set of rules for him vs the rest of the world.
You can run but you can't hid Lloyd - your YouTube channel will be removed next.
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re: Jaracz - AFAICT there is no evidence, no one has any evidence, there is only hearsay and we know how easy that is. No difference to inventing claims about the other guy buying some bottles of liquor - even though there was evidence he was buying it, any claims about why are a complete invention so as to be worthless. But if you're a certain YouTuber, you don't care about facts, you just care about clicks and making claims that you have some inside knowledge when in reality you have bugger all.
So what's the update? Is the other 1000+ post dead? Are you going to move and tag this one on to that thread?
Yeah, I need to get some time to write the code to do it, but haven't gotten to it so far. I don't see there's any rush.
My excuse for everything from now on will be to just say "because Kim, that's why!"
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It’s all because of sexual repression why I messed up my life and my kids think I’m disgusting the way I treated their mom.
it’s all watchtowers fault, if I had been allowed to watch porn and toss off as a teenager then none of this would have happened
Was he ever actually "sexually repressed" though? Did he ever live by the WTS rules? By his own accounts he didn't. He doesn't even live by most normal people's definition of decency.
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I just wanted to celebrate part II of this legendary thread with a caption contest .......aaaaaand GO!
"I thought the probability of being a rapist by regularly using prostitutes was higher than the probability of catching AIDS ... thankfully, the little money I didn't piss away on toys and t-shirts will last the rest of my life ... unfortunately, the doctors say that is probably next week ... so I bought some more drugs"
OK, it isn't so much of a "caption" that it wouldn't fit in the bubble.
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Sad that he can't sell anymore "Tibor is gracious" T-Shirts isn't it?
But who ever bought those anyway? Can you imagine wearing one and trying to explain what it means when someone asks with a puzzled look on their face?
"Well, there's this online scrounger who REGULARLY cheats on his wife with hookers ... and, erm, his 'friend' (that he pays) is, erm ... I dunno, wait, was I scammed?".
