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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Patron, noun:

  "a person who gives financial or other support to a person, organization, cause, or activity"

  If you have "patrons" that aren't paying, are they really still patrons? No, they are not. It'll potentially convince some who were paying patrons to drop down to the lower tier. I'm hoping the majority are only giving him $2 a month (still $24 a year to much).

  He's just trying to give the illusion that he isn't hemorrhaging support.

  But then everything he ever did was all for appearances and publicity.
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  Lloyd Evans Patreoff Pool - November 2023

  by DerekMoors in

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  let's get the fun started and put in our votes for how far down the pumpkin patch lord of the fries will fall in november.. for those keeping score, last month he started at 457 patrons, did some begging and managed to bump those numbers up to 478, but as of this writing he's down to 439.. so, how well do you think the grift will continue this month?

  let us know where you think he'll be on november 2. lucky number 420?

  will he drop back down below 400?

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  He was down to 390 patrons when he did his begging video and bumped the numbers up. I think he hit a low of 435 this month before rebounding to 440 or 441. I think he's at 439 now.

  He's down roughly 50% from his all time peak, and 25% from the bounce from his last over-the-top begging attempt. Those get old very quickly, you can't do that too often - he's probably already out of suckers that can't see the baloney.

  The economy is also getting tougher which is a double whammy for him - his expenses will go up at the same time as everyone else's and more people will start to question whether they have money to spare on something that has no effect, and doesn't even result in any real production anyway. What exactly is the point of donating?
  
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  Lloyd Evans Patreoff Pool - November 2023

  by DerekMoors in

  1. social
  2. humour

  let's get the fun started and put in our votes for how far down the pumpkin patch lord of the fries will fall in november.. for those keeping score, last month he started at 457 patrons, did some begging and managed to bump those numbers up to 478, but as of this writing he's down to 439.. so, how well do you think the grift will continue this month?

  let us know where you think he'll be on november 2. lucky number 420?

  will he drop back down below 400?

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  his promised documentaries, TED Talk, etc.

  I am disappointed he didn't do a TED talk, I think it would be hilariously bad and go viral as a result. Just imaging, some fat geezer with a droning voice trying to be serious, telling the world how he wasn't allowed to touch his pee-pee, but how he never stopped touching his pee-pee and rubbing it against random objects, including Christmas trees. And the tale of woe about how them not allowing him to touch it affected him deeply, and tampered with him, even though he didn't actually follow any of the rules. And how he forever more lost mastery of it ...

  Pure comedy gold.
  
  
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  Real reasons behind this change?

  by Gorb in

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  just a good conversation at home about the hour report change.. we think the change was not impmemented because the gb are such a lovely bunch of old grandpa's having the best in mind for us individuals.. there will be only, and we say only, an organizational reason for it.

  a legal reason, to protect jw.org and it's officials and wealth.. next step?

  maybe selling more kh and when jw hollywood studio's in rampoo are ready a change to tv subscription.. what do you think?

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  they were saying these things even though people should still have been able to remember the 1969 magazine where they told young people that "the fact" was that they would "never" (direct quote!) grow old in the present system.

  I was born in 67, I remember being told that the end would come before I'd goto or leave high school.

  What a crock of shit. High school was a long, long time ago. Still no sign of big J doing his big A.

  Methinks some people were conned, and it wasn't even a convincing story.
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  I third it. In fact, I demand that someone tell us where we can contribute the money to help cover the expenses from this. People have had expenses due to doing the right thing, not to mention the stress and inconvenience from all of it. Some thing are worthy of community contributions because we know real work was done and people involved are not profiteering.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Is the JWWatch site down? jwwatch.org returns "There has been a critical error on this website."

  He has no one to do free maintenance work for his website anymore?
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  I think the biggest change was stopping charging for the literature in the 1990s. Until that point Watchtower was effectively a publishing company and their entire culture (including counting time, placements, return visits, and so on) reflected this

  I think that just changed who paid and how. Instead of it being direct, it was "well, give a contribution that reflects the value" so they still published literature and got money for it, just without a clear price / revenue model.

  But like the current change, it's likely all for legal reasons rather than any real "new light" (even though that's how they will spin it).

  Fun experiment: fill in the online form indicating that you are interested in the JWs and someone from the local congregation will arrange a visit. Now tell me that isn't direct control and a demonstrable command structure ...
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  Gaza situation....

  by mikeflood in

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  terrible gaza situation, i think the solution, expensive and hard, is to take all the gaza population out, good people could be supported and go to lebanon, for example.

  otherwise is gonna be a humanitarian catastrophe.

  i know, it could take time, but then the people responsible for the terror could be brought to justice..

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  It's telling that no Arab country wants them or will let them in. Egypt has border ... it's closed solid.

  How many thousand years have then had and they are still just barbaic savages? Time to pull the plug. Stop funding, stop propping them up.
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  Things JWs Say That Don't Mean What They Think It Means

  by NotFormer in

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  sometimes things don't come across the way the speaker intended.. years ago there was an ad by the whitegoods company fisher and paykel.

  they showed them going to great lengths to get customer feedback on what was important to them.

  one customer said that she wanted it to be easy to get her appliances serviced when they broke down.

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  "Jehovah is a loving god" (while believing he's going to kill 9 billion people, the overwhelming majority never even hearing of him).
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  No more REPORTING field service!!!!!!!!!

  by BoogerMan in

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  2. beliefs

  this is going to break the hearts of a lot of uber-jw's!

  reddit has now removed the video link of samuel herd telling jw's they will no longer have to report time or placements - just tick a box which says "active.".

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdshyx79rm&t=13s.

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  I doubt anyone ever really believes they are doing "life saving work". It's all about the social points within the group. That's why they spend as long as possible talking to as few people as they can. Just lots of walking about and socializing.