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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  When you leave a cult and are all sorts of emotional (angry, confused, sad etc) Lloyd seemed like a “great place to repair”.

  That's exactly why he hangs around exJWs - the vulnerable people leaving the WTS are easy picking for a predator to take advantage of.

  People both want to help but also need help from others, what they don't need is to be fleeced.

  No one should feel bad for being trusting and wanting to help "the cause".

  Everyone who leaves feels like they want to destroy the WatchTower. It's understandable due to the hurt they cause. But after some number of years out everyone realizes that it's simply unrealistic. What is inexcusable is to know that and be making promises that you'll bring it about, if people donate money to you. He must know it's impossible and isn't going to happen, otherwise he's even dumber than we think, so the only explanation for taking people's money is that it is a grift.
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  In Defense of the Crusades

  by aqwsed12345 in

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  christians in the eleventh century were not paranoid fanatics.

  muslims really were gunning for them.

  by the time the crusades started, muslims had already captured two-thirds of the christian world.

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  I find history, including that of the Crusades, fascinating. Thanks for the post.
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  Redding Drama

  by Bill Covert in

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  2. scandals

  if any one was so inclined to go back to 2013 on the site and locate the posts on the note takers reporting on the 2013 convention [the release of the rnwt and gb demanding obedience] there were two note takers who reported on the main talk "human apostates" that there was a new tactic being used, letter writing to the publishers homes.

  the main subject of those letters was a elder joe moore.

  on 12-26-2007 i taped court case #149893 to kh doors.

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  You seem like a grade A certifiable loon.

  You are no longer welcome on this site.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Something to think about:

  Patreon is 'great' for hooking up with donors, but they do take a cut. Anyone with half a brain will try to divert people into sending money directly (PayPal, or whatever) so they get more of it, especially if Patreon isn't really being used to provide people with any actual rewards, it's just a begging bowl.

  So don't limit Lloyd's potential income to calculations based purely on Patreon numbers. He's likely tapping some people for money directly.
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  Jesus Joke

  by Simon in

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  it made me chuckle.

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  Another one

  
  
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  Jesus Joke

  by Simon in

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  it made me chuckle.

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  It made me chuckle

  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  I'm just saying it smells like BS. Not entirely 100% impossible, sure, but, certainly implausible.

  Sometimes you come across people that lie even when there doesn't seem to be any reason or benefit to doing so. I think some people actually get a kick out of "fooling" people and presenting something that isn't true and seeing it accepted, even though there is no real gain from doing so.

  Personally, I assume that he's untruthful about most things and out to deceive people for some reason. So I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was mostly lies all from the outset.

  It's like the fable of the Scorpion and the Frog:

  A scorpion wants to cross a river but cannot swim, so it asks a frog to carry it across. The frog hesitates, afraid that the scorpion might sting it, but the scorpion promises not to, pointing out that it would drown if it killed the frog in the middle of the river. The frog considers this argument sensible and agrees to transport the scorpion. Midway across the river, the scorpion stings the frog anyway, dooming them both. The dying frog asks the scorpion why it stung despite knowing the consequence, to which the scorpion replies: "I am sorry, but I couldn't resist the urge. It's my character."
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Two videos and a canceled Zoom call. He says this is his job and he considers the donations to be his wages.

  Amazing isn't it, and then he'll be asking "why is my channel and patreon support falling?!?"

  Because the deal wasn't that people just give you money for nothing, you dumb-ass!
  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  As Lloyd has been using drugs for some time now and built up a tolerance for them, she hasn’t and was literally on the floor tripping and wondering if she should take herself to hospital. Lloyd was passed out in the other room from his intoxication and she was worried about the girls who now had two parents strung out on drugs in the hotel suite.

  Great parenting (not!)
  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  2. friends

  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  It's funny how he's making videos as though he's pushing back the frontiers of philosophy rather than adding nothing new to a subject that has already been done to death since before we were even born.

  In 20+ years of this forum, we've done the logical paradox of an all powerful and loving god but an evil world and suffering, many many times.