Posts by Simon

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Simon

My mom was told numerous time to leave him, since he was so abusive towards her. Family and friends would offer to let us live with them until she got back on her feet. She always refused because she was always afraid of him.

Yeah, anyone who is so controlling that they attack other people's wives simply because they liked some video that they disagree with is controlling, and if they try to be that controlling and bulling with other people then god-knows what they are doing to their wife at home.

I doubt he's a loving, respectful man in private given what he's like to other people in public.

I don't know why women in situations like that don't leave, life is never going to be great if you have a loser in it and you have to think about what is best for the children.

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The "WE'RE ALL IMPERFECT" Theory.

by pistolpete in

a recurring theme in this loyd deal is the we're all imperfect-----------excuse!.

the "we're all imperfect" phrase, is an over used watchtower membership cliche, embedded in the minds of jws and anyone that leaves.

in the real world, there is no such thing as "we are all imperfect".

Simon

It's not a defence, it's an excuse, and an utterly lame one.

If the best you can do is say "but ... but ... but I didn't kill anyone" then you really did fail.

And if you contributed to a trafficked girls life of hell, maybe you did worse than kill her.

Most people haven't done wrongs anywhere remotely like he has, so his attempts to claim "we're all the same" and that anyone that condemns him is pretending to be a saint is just more bullshit from the master bullshitter.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Simon

Bethel or Brothel; Is there a difference?

Only who's getting screwed. Visitor or host ...

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Simon

"I know ~~Rick~~ Lloyd thrives on attention

"the lunacy of his tirades speaks for itself"

"I'm also a believer in people apologizing when they cross the line"

"Just because his behaviour is wearisome and predictable, doesn't mean he shouldn't be called to account when he goes too far."

Pure comedy gold. LOL

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Simon

if some one sends him $150 he "might" put their name in the new book's acknowledgments. At the time I didn't think much of it, now I realize that screams "unprofessional amateur."

Not only is it amateurish but all you get is a "might"? You don't even get any guarantee for your money? Probably because he'd happily take enough contributions that it would require the whole book just be mentions if he could.

Most especially don't try to make it a paying job. First of all, I don't think there's enough money in it. I also think it raises too many conflicts of interest.

I forget where, but I once read something about a trap for activists being where they easily become dependent on the thing they are supposedly against. Do they then genuinely want to see its demise, given that they rely on its existence for their own and for funds to flow to them? So they end up in a kind of symbiotic / parasitic relationship instead.

A lot of government agencies end up like this, never solving the very problems they are supposedly created to solve, often contributing to them instead.

The other easy trap to fall into is not having enough material, or anything new to report on. At that point it's tempting to make things up, and invent things so you can put out content, again, to keep the money coming in. He's already done this, and it only takes a few unjustified claims and allegations to really undermine and weaken other potential charges you make against something.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Simon

I’m actually happy to hear that he’s “sexually repressed”. Repressed implies there’s something bigger is just waiting to bust out. If this is repressed, I shudder to think of what lies underneath.

Although he hasn't done much to suppress any of his behavior at any point in his life from the accounts even he tells. He seems to love writing about and talking about what he does with his dinky-winky (I think that's what his Thai girls probably call it).

It looks like he's simply done whatever he wants at every opportunity, his only complaint being when he gets caught. That's when he's come up with the "suppression" claim, and the even wilder claim that "he's had his sexuality tampered with" which is a bit hyperbolic, and a massive insult to those who've lived through genuine sexual abuse.

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The Lloyd Evans Sex Scandal is our Business

by annihilator in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w82evcjfybm.

Simon

Yes, it's income, otherwise employers and employees could skirt payroll takes by paying through donations.

Whether he does or not ... who knows. He's lied to everyone else, why should the taxman be treated any different? LOL

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Simon

The whole "I was repressed" thing is just an excuse to try to absolve himself of any responsibility.

Anything he does wrong is always someone else's fault, never his.

As you say, he was never really repressed, because he was doing these things while he was a JW, and an elder, and lots of people (not just JWs) had similar upbringings and it didn't make them grubby little perverts that behave like animals.

"how can I be expected to have mastery of my penis" must be about the lamest thing that can ever come out of a guys mouth.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

Simon

The EVANS GATE CULT

That was genuinely LOL material, for real.

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Where do we go from here, the Lloyd-gate?

by raymond frantz in

the problem is where do we go from here?

lloyd is not going to go away , he has too much to loose(money) neither will his followers go as we have seen the last few days there was hardly a drop to his membership .so what's next?

we will be branded in the same colours and because of him we won't be taken seriously anymore.

Simon

But recently it's very obviously been about money and quantity rather than quality....such as those silly sushi videos. Quick 5 minute dopamine hits of "why I'm right"for exjws to make 'em feel better. Or people phoning in asking inane questions with equally inane and obvious answers.

Exactly - and this is the problem with turning the activism into a business. What happens if the WTS doesn't do anything? You still want to release content, and so you start inventing things instead of reporting things.

we will be branded with the same colours as him and we will be alot less credible with him around, I believe anyone who into YouTube activism should publicly distance themselves from him.

I disagree. I think it's clear to anyone who wants to look that we're certainly not part of whatever group he thinks he speaks for. We are well clear of him. But yes, anyone who wants to keep their credibility has to distance themselves from him, or you'll be seen to be condoning his lifestyle and behavior.