Exactly, why do we care!
Maybe they are taking his money and don't want to do much, but if someone starts trashing them online perhaps they will be more inclined to put more effort in. Why encourage them?
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11530It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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I think it's useful to put yourself in the shoes of a 3rd party observer and how things look.
It's tempting to keep escalating claims and negative comments, but if the aim is to best present a case, that isn't always the best strategy.
At some point, there's overreach, and that then is easy to pick up on. It's a technique Lloyd uses over and over, so don't give him the opportunity.
Not that you have to do anything I suggest of course, I'm just sharing my opinion in the hope of helping.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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I think it's more about the concept of "Lloyds litigation", not so much the law firm specifically.
Someone who hasn't had a response from them, or calls returned could be justified in leaving a review, although I don't know why anyone would ever complain about the quality or competence of the lawyers representing someone who is threatening to sue them.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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No, IMO there's a difference. They are a company providing a service, a review of them is only appropriate if you are their customer.
They have not woken up one day and decided to harass anyone. They are simply acting on the instructions of their client, and the fact that he may have "cheaped-out" and wanted the no-real-service option really isn't anything to complain about, certainly not to put on them.
Let's not make ourselves look like we're not fair and objective. That company are not our enemy. Why make them more inclined to want to put more effort into work for Lloyd?
Our criticism of Lloyd is different. No, most of us are not his customers, but his behavior has negatively impacted many. We're victims of his bullying, harassment and damaging influence on our community. So criticising that and warning people about what he does is entirely appropriate.
It's not like he offers activist-services-for-hire, such that anyone is ever really his client.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened inoriginal reddit post (removed).
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Aw, look at him - so pleased with himself with his bomber jacket and chubby cheeks!
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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How many times has he reminded us that he's "seriously considering" leaving activism and how exJWs torment him?
I think that's just him fishing for praise, wanting people to say "oh no, please, we love you so much, here - I'll give you money to convince you to stay"
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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James Lloyd Evans was constantly having a dig at Mark O’Donnell as to who had the biggest JW collection of items.
Weird. Just weird.
I get having some books, as a reference, but the logo? So big? And framing things?
It's way too "worshippy" - I bet 99% of current JWs don't treat the literature with such reverence and don't have the JW.org logo displayed in their house at all.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
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As a general rule I don't think you should be leaving reviews of any company you're not a customer of. It's a shitty thing to do IMO.
Let's not do silly things, it doesn't achieve anything and ends up being counter productive.
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Would a JW accused to be a murderer (in a judicial committee) be reported to the police?
by psyco ini am wondering if a jw accused to be a murderer (or any other serious crime except csa) in a judicial committee would be reported to the police.. if i sexually abused or molested a child, i would not be reported to the police.. what about if i killed a person: would i be instead?.
it is not a matter of being right or wrong but i am only curious to know if there is at least a sort of coherence regarding the internal policies for serious crimes....
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Murder is a harder crime to cover up and ignore.
"he's fine ... he's just resting"
I always wonder why people don't report crimes to the police. Is it possible that they want things "handled" in a less dramatic fashion, by someone having a "friendly word"?
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2022 - 1914 = ?
by fedup inobviously not the orgs brightest moment for teaching that the generation of 1914 would be alive to see paradise.
forget the "new light" that bought them an extra 100 years, which if any other religion would've done this, the org would scream false religion.
the fact is that for 75 years this #1 recruiting message from the society was a lie.. i asked a current jw to get a calculator and do the math: 2022 - 1914 = an angry reaction.
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Making 1914 and the generation teaching go away will take some work
It really won't, the majority of JWs probably can't describe their core doctrinal beliefs when it comes to prophetic fulfillment and such crap. They will just restate things in a different way and slap the "new light" label on it.
"... and so brothers, while we know the society was right about 1914 marking the beginning of the last days Je-hoover has now revealed that Jesus began his journey on that date, clearing the universe in the following generations upto 1975 and arriving at earth in 2019. Little wonder that the world went to shit, with pestilence striking as Satan tries to test our faith through COVID ..."
They'll walk away thinking this is what they always believed. or something like it ... the specifics don't matter because they get the warm fuzzies just by being around all the brothers and sisters.