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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

  by Newly Enlightened in

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  Perhaps if he hadn't taken a bunch of camera equipment and film team crew, he might have fitted in more people. Why doesn't he go back for more, or was it a one off to make you tube content on the back of the crises?

  Yeah, it's the difference between going to do a good thing for the sake of doing it alone, and maximizing what you can do, which means no "team" and less equipment ... and doing it for PR purposes.

  I haven't watched it, but is it really about helping or is to be seen to be helping? I'm sure the last thing people fleeing want to see is a YouTuber making a film about them.

  But vulnerable people that can be of use to Lloyd? Fire up the cameras ...
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Wait, so he's saying he can't go save people because he has the kids to take care of, but he was OK abandoning them for weeks to go whoreing? Or was he taking them all with him so there was only room to pick one person up?

  Priorities pal, get them straight. Also, aim to be consistent.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  It isn't random. It is his attempt to re-frame the controversy he is mired in

  He loves the "innocent by relative comparison" defence. He even uses it in his livestream saying he hasn't murdered anyone or clubbed any baby seal to death. If I recall he fails to mention rape in his list or later deny a direct accusation of grooming a 14 year old, instead choosing to decry what he sees as a lack of support he's getting from exJWs.
  
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  Wow! 2700 plus topic about our friend Lloyd Evens

  by new boy in

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  well, i haven't been here in about 5 months.

  ever since my ex-pioneer partner and bethel roommate roy baty died.

  looks like i've have missed out on some fun.

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  The title of his book is a lie. "The reluctant Apostate" He loves his activism, since this is his only source of income. In fact if something ever did happened to his chief adversary he would be screwed. He would have to go out and get a real job.

  Nah, I think it's accurate. He's not an apostate because he disagreed with the WTS and left on principle. He's an exJW because they got sick of him and kicked him out. I'm guessing to protect their members from his uncontrollable penis, exactly the kind of thing they should do.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  If you're ever going to listen to anyone, you should know to listen to people who have been supportive in the past.

  Yes, there will be people who are always critical of you no matter what you do or say and it's reasonable to say you don't need to listen to them and can ignore their views.

  But someone who has supported you? They are not your enemy, they are telling you something, that you've taken a wrong turn or gone off the rails.

  That's the time to stop, listen and be humble.

  But of course he doesn't do "listen" or "humble". He simply switches that person into the "anti-me" column and declares them the enemy.

  He was able to build support because there was a ready, waiting, eager audience. He's reached the point where he alienates people faster than he can gain new viewers. The low-hanging fruit are all gone and he's built walls so high he can't see new trees anymore.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  I'm just putting this out into the ether, but imagine the heroic comeback if he went and fought for Ukraine against the Russian invasion - all would be forgiven, he'd be a hero and we'd all look like schmucks.

  I'm totally not trying to put an idea in his head so some Russia can shoot it off. Honest.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  Hope he has a hardcore muslim on. That will be funny.

  But I predict it will be someone with wishy washy unclear pseudo-christian beliefs. i.e. an easy target.

  At least he has maybe got the message that he has no future doing exJW work and is trying to find another niche to shakedown.
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  Some Jw's are the worst employees

  by Foolednomore in

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  i found a company and employed an elder as an underwriter and two ms as sales and marketing.

  anyway, this elder will delegate his work to the ms in sales and marketing, so he can go home early.

  he knew when he got started that this would be a 10 hour a day job with some saturday.

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  There are two groups of people at most companies. Those who work really really really hard, and make themselves irreplaceable and indispensable ... and those that get promoted.

  Hard work is for idiots and losers. Always work smarter, not harder.

  Many managers will prefer to keep the hard worker doing what they are doing. Why wouldn't they? Enjoy your years of hard work ...
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  What JW is going to talk to him?

  It'll be like his original "these are totally from current JWs, honest" survey ... probably some other john he ran into and gave a script to.

  As a basic rule, no current JW in good standing would dream of doing some interview with an apostate online.

  So it will either involve trickery or lies, possibly both.

  Or, as nicolaou points out - it will be nothing whatsoever to-do with JWs and he's trying to re-invent himself as just another atheist commentator where they don't know he's a dick.

  I give it 3 weeks before his new audience is laughing at his backstory.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

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  The Gold interview was an attempt to outright deny he had seen sex workers in Thailand. Instead he "dated" them. This is direct contradiction to his livestream comments and his lengthy FB statement about him seeing sex workers there.

  Yes, we now have Thailand, Croatia and other Countries (plural, so at least 2) that he's seen sex workers by his own admission on tape.

  Now I wonder how many trips abroad he's taken alone vs with his family in the last few years? Because it now sounds like he might have been doing it while they were with him which is even more yucky, for them.

  "No, daddy can't take you to the beach today, he has to go see a lady ..."

  Try to reconcile that with his BS claims about being a dedicated family man that has to miss out on time with his family ... that he makes to raise money.

  He can't control himself (his admission), so if you give him money you just enable him to spend time away from his family (although they'll probably see that as a blessing at some point if they don't already).