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Mandated Shunning is a Crime
by Lee Marsh in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
mandated shunning is on the rise around the world with devastating effects on millions of people.

shunning that is mandated by organized groups to its members is a form of both physical and psychological violence against those people being shunned and cut off from their family and life-long relationships.

mandated shunning means that the shunning is ordered from the top down.
Simon

Reminder: the WTS can't shun you (or you don't give a flying fuck if they do). So what if a few million people you'll never meet shouldn't talk to you, when the practical reality is that they won't know, and you won't know who they are?
The only people who can shun you are your friend and family, and that is on them. Don't give them the "out" that they "have to", because someone, somewhere said so. It's on THEM. Heap the guilt on them as much as you can because they are the ones doing it.
They ask yourself why you want to associate with or be friends with anyone who'd shun you based on someone else's say-so, someone they'll never even meet?
Fuck them and fuck the horse they rode in on - find better, truer, friends.
But don't try to get the government to help. Any help they offer is not going to make your life better.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Simon

I had a "saw this and thought of someone ..." moment, LOL:
https://twitter.com/InsaneRealitys/status/1698792799972561290
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Mandated Shunning is a Crime
by Lee Marsh in
1. watchtower
2. beliefs
mandated shunning is on the rise around the world with devastating effects on millions of people.

shunning that is mandated by organized groups to its members is a form of both physical and psychological violence against those people being shunned and cut off from their family and life-long relationships.

mandated shunning means that the shunning is ordered from the top down.
Simon

Having the government mandate who you MUST associate with is far worse and more dangerous than any WTS shunning could ever be.
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ex JEHOVAH'S WITNESS CHESSA MANION FEATURED IN THIS VIDEO.
by RESPECTFUL OBSERVER in
1. jw
2. friends
update on former jehovah's witness activist chessa manion.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfhc1ncg12g.
Simon

This would be better posted on the existing thread:
Chessa Manion: When A Victim Becomes The Perp
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Simon

Rather than risk burnout, I did none of the things I promised to.
Remember to send your monthly donations to ...
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars
by Newly Enlightened in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
original reddit post (removed).
Simon

All round, he's setting himself up for more awkward questions by including the begging banner totals every month. Unless he realises and drops the idea after just a month - but then that will also look odd. Another failed attempt to inflate his numbers.
He'll double (triple? quadruple?) down on the claim that it's due to the defamation by those dastardly CRIMINALS, forgetting his promises that they would all be brought to justice by his "litigation", and where exactly is that at / why isn't he giving updates about it?
Everything he does creates questions for his supporters - why is support dropping? Why are other people stopping their contributions? Why am I going to be the only one sending this guy money?
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Exes: Would You Rat On A Current JW?
by NotFormer in
1. watchtower
2. scandals
it's an interesting thought.

if you are an ex jw, presumably dfed, and you see a current jw in good standing engaging in behaviour that would concern their elders, would you pass on that information to interested parties?

do accusations from exes and other outsiders carry any weight?
Simon

Depends, was it a self-righteous jobsworth that took delight in throwing others under the bus?
Time to learn how it feels ...
Otherwise, no, I'm not doing their dirty work for them.
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Voting thumbs up
by peacefulpete in
1. forum
2. tech-support
is anyone else having problem giving a thumbs up?

it has been happening for a long time.

i vote up , it appears, then disappears when i return to page.
Simon

Simon, if you ever have issue with what I post, please just message me so it can be sorted out. TIA
That's not how it works.
I make a decision based on what I see, I don't have to inform you about it. If you can't figure out what wasn't acceptable then "tough-titties" - it's usually obvious and typically intentional, which is why I rarely get into protracted debates about what specific clause of what rule was or wasn't spelled out sufficiently in advance and contravened or not.
Refer to the guidelines and posting rules, especially the part about if you think we made a wrong decision. It's all about principles, and hopefully people recognize the intent behind how the forum is run, and accept decisions - even if they may not fully agree with every call, they can see why it's impossible to constantly re-litigate every one ... and when people try to do that over multiple years, I start thinking they are just unhinged and become less inclined to waste time on them.
And if the accusation is that my decisions aren't 100% perfect and consistent ... well, I never claimed to be Jesus.
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Why do JW apostates tend to be activists against the religion?
by Vanderhoven7 in
1. watchtower
2. bible
j. arden writes.

first of all an apostate is literally just someone who left.

most jws are technically apostates from the religions they were raised in.
Simon

It's a self-selecting population - the only people you tend to "know" are exJWs are vocal apostates, but the ones that aren't you don't know are exJWs
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Voting thumbs up
by peacefulpete in
1. forum
2. tech-support
is anyone else having problem giving a thumbs up?

it has been happening for a long time.

i vote up , it appears, then disappears when i return to page.
Simon

My posting have always been on-topic
No, it hasn't. You have previously hijacked topics to pursue a grudge, just as you're doing with this one, claiming that your account was deleted just for disagreeing with me, which is untrue.
You can either accept it, or leave. What you don't get to do is constantly re-hash it. If you do, your account will be deleted, and in future you will no longer be tolerated at all but deleted on sight.
If I could be bothered, I'd undelete your off-topic comments as proof (oh yes, they are still there), but I really have better things todo with my time than waste it trying to prove anything to someone who simply can't be reasoned with.