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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  I third it. In fact, I demand that someone tell us where we can contribute the money to help cover the expenses from this. People have had expenses due to doing the right thing, not to mention the stress and inconvenience from all of it. Some thing are worthy of community contributions because we know real work was done and people involved are not profiteering.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Is the JWWatch site down? jwwatch.org returns "There has been a critical error on this website."

  He has no one to do free maintenance work for his website anymore?
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  I think the biggest change was stopping charging for the literature in the 1990s. Until that point Watchtower was effectively a publishing company and their entire culture (including counting time, placements, return visits, and so on) reflected this

  I think that just changed who paid and how. Instead of it being direct, it was "well, give a contribution that reflects the value" so they still published literature and got money for it, just without a clear price / revenue model.

  But like the current change, it's likely all for legal reasons rather than any real "new light" (even though that's how they will spin it).

  Fun experiment: fill in the online form indicating that you are interested in the JWs and someone from the local congregation will arrange a visit. Now tell me that isn't direct control and a demonstrable command structure ...
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  Gaza situation....

  by mikeflood in

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  terrible gaza situation, i think the solution, expensive and hard, is to take all the gaza population out, good people could be supported and go to lebanon, for example.

  otherwise is gonna be a humanitarian catastrophe.

  i know, it could take time, but then the people responsible for the terror could be brought to justice..

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  It's telling that no Arab country wants them or will let them in. Egypt has border ... it's closed solid.

  How many thousand years have then had and they are still just barbaic savages? Time to pull the plug. Stop funding, stop propping them up.
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  Things JWs Say That Don't Mean What They Think It Means

  by NotFormer in

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  sometimes things don't come across the way the speaker intended.. years ago there was an ad by the whitegoods company fisher and paykel.

  they showed them going to great lengths to get customer feedback on what was important to them.

  one customer said that she wanted it to be easy to get her appliances serviced when they broke down.

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  "Jehovah is a loving god" (while believing he's going to kill 9 billion people, the overwhelming majority never even hearing of him).
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  No more REPORTING field service!!!!!!!!!

  by BoogerMan in

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  this is going to break the hearts of a lot of uber-jw's!

  reddit has now removed the video link of samuel herd telling jw's they will no longer have to report time or placements - just tick a box which says "active.".

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akdshyx79rm&t=13s.

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  I doubt anyone ever really believes they are doing "life saving work". It's all about the social points within the group. That's why they spend as long as possible talking to as few people as they can. Just lots of walking about and socializing.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Lloyd is a criminal, period. Convicted of it or not, he admits to using prostitutes regularly, which is a crime. If your personal life involves criminal activity, yes it's other people's business. In fact, court cases are often public because we feel that criminal activity is not someone's "private business" but in the interest of the public.

  If your dollars are going to support criminal activity then yes, it's your business.

  From what I've read over the last few years I now believe that anyone who uses prostitutes is effectively a rapist as by most accounts I've read, any "consent" involved is a lie as they are simply not really free to give it. There is always some coercion in some form or another. An exJW activist should know that the only reliable accounts from people who were trapped in a lifestyle come from those who have escaped from it.

  That's in western countries. Add high-traffic countries such as Thailand and I think it erases the last pieces of doubt. If you claim to be an advocate for victims of childhood sexual abuse while using young women in these countries? Just stop already, how can you even claim to care? How can you believe you have any credibility whatsoever?

  Anyone still supporting him financially is an enabler and should hang their head in shame. Anyone still defending him, given all that is now known about the "man", has to be judged as a supporter of such behavior and like him should have no business being anywhere near women and girls.

  Also, when you talk about your own sexual indiscretions and describe them as involving "women and girls", people will assume that the girls aren't women, so when someone makes an accusation that you did something you shouldn't with some girl who was underage ... well, it makes it sound more credible. Throw in the judicial committee meetings (what % of those are for sexual misconduct?) that an "I'll make a video out of anything" YouTuber made the bizarre and non-sensical claim they didn't want to record "because they had nothing to hide" and you wonder what skeletons are still waiting to be revealed.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  His private life would be his private life ... except it wasn't ever kept private - he wrote books about his life, he solicited donations based on his life, including the notion that he was a devoted family man and caring husband which we now know was a complete veneer or lies.

  The reality was that he'd been treating his wife like shit for at least the last half-decade, probably a lot longer (I don't think people really change who they are, and it seems like he's always been a sex-pest all his life, as documented by his own accounts).

  He decided to live his life in public and make money from doing it, so his "private life" was never private and is fair game for commentary and critique.

  Lloyd - it's your personal life, not a private one, and you didn't keep it private so why should anyone else bother to?

  You made your own bed, lie in it you sick mother fucker.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  it’s like he’s given up on this case completely, even though he’s still going on about criminal defendants

  In the words of a judge ... what case?! :D

  It was always just pantomime - bread and circuses to fool his followers.
  
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  Lloyd Evans Patreoff Pool - November 2023

  by DerekMoors in

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  let's get the fun started and put in our votes for how far down the pumpkin patch lord of the fries will fall in november.. for those keeping score, last month he started at 457 patrons, did some begging and managed to bump those numbers up to 478, but as of this writing he's down to 439.. so, how well do you think the grift will continue this month?

  let us know where you think he'll be on november 2. lucky number 420?

  will he drop back down below 400?

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  Put me down for 416