It's just pure random chance that the holy spirit selects people who are also the most conveniently located, in the office down the hallway.
Not your typical man-made organization where proximity to power gets you ahead, whatsoever.
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36Why are the 2 newly appointed Governing Body Members from Bethel, when there are anointed ones all over the world? they could have used.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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Moving forward, earning at or slightly above the national average is the best case scenario for him for the little work that he does. It will carve out an existence in Zagreb for him but little else. That’s what he’s so angry about and why he had to get out of town for as long as he did.
Who thinks Lloyd is a wise and sensible person who puts money away for retirement, instead of just living for the "here and now".
Yeah, me neither!
It appeats that when he has money, it immediately goes on hookers, travel, lego toys, childish t-shirts and generally living-large.
It's going to be even funnier when life really catches up with him.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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Yeah, we'll probably never know what the reality was but one thing we DO know for certain - he absolutely did have something to fucking hide otherwise he would have recorded it. It makes no sense to say you have nothing to hide and then hide things! It was his chance to go out with a sensational video piece, and he took a pass for no reason whatsoever? It doesn't make sense.
What are the chances that when his subsequent sexual behavior was uncovered, it would be along the same lines as the allegations made about him years before, which would explain so so many things.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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as a signed up jw for most of my life I have been under the wt's rule of law on masterbation,oral sex etc etc too.
Has it damaged me or tampered with my sexuality??And of course, by his own accounts, he never actually adhered to or even appeared to try to adhere to the rules. He broke them and behaved improperly. When he left, he continued to live an immoral life (immoral by "worldly standard", because the vast majority of normal people don't view cheating on your wife with prostitutes as in any way defensible or excusable).
He wasn't tampered with in any way - he did whatever he wanted to whether as a JW or after he left. The strict WTS rules just weren't able to control his behavior.
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UK Council Tax arrears - Did you face or are you facing BAILIFFS???
by BoogerMan ininteresting new legal protection:.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pfj5fac4rke.
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Just the march towards the decay of society, where everyone can be a freeloader and all wonder why the local community has gone to shit.
Endless takers - immigrants, work-shy, and criminal, all take take take and expecting a honest minority to work ever-harder and be taxed more and more to fund it all.
Until after one last straw, the back of the camels back breaks and it all crashes into chaos.
Of course, it may be mis-reported:
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
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What makes his comment odd about having his sexuality “tampered with” ...
The only documented "tampering" we know of is that they put a stop to his sexting 'girls' (his word) after his wife discovered his improprieties.
Not everything the WTS does is wrong, just because the do it. Some of the people they kick out are kicked out for good reason and being a WTS reject doesn't make you an apostate.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
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I know why there is a lot of hatred of LE. But nobody is perfect and all of us here can understand how being a former JW can really mess you up and mess up your life.
No one hated him, he brought all the negative feelings on himself through his repeated behavior over many years. Being an exJW is no kind of excuse for being vindictive, aggressive, and abusive toward people.
He messed up his marriage by hiring prostitution on a semi regular basis and he has narcissistic traits when dealing with others.
Even what he admitted to was absolutely regular, and was likely under-stated, but the rest is correct.
But on a positive note he has done a lot of good for the ex JW community. There have been many videos over the years that have made me and others think. In fact he has put two and two together with lots of previous knowledge that has been very very powerful in proving that this is a man made organisation.
Has he though? Has he produced anything that is original research done by himself that wasn't just re-stating what is common opinions among exJWs? Has he done a net amount of good? Does his "good videos' make up for all the damage he's done to the community that has been substantial. He's driven other people away, because he saw them as competition. And he's really not responsible for showing that it's a man-made organization - apostates have been making the case for that for the last century. What special knowledge does he have? He was an elder for a very short time before being kicked out (which has to be bad when you have elder-father protection). He was likely the kind of elder that many suffered abuse from and got their jollies by forcing people to recount their sexual sins. He's not the hero you're trying to make him out to be - he's only with us because the WTS didn't want to put up with his shit anymore either (and they'll take the Yorkshire Ripper!).
If I ever met Lloyd I would be grateful for all he has done, I would overlook his many shortcomings and cut the guy some slack.
I can overlook people making mistakes. I can't overlook people deliberately hurting others and taking advantage of peoples hopes and dreams to fleece them when they are vulnerable, promising them things he knows full well he can't deliver.
He is obviously hurting and he must feel trapped now having alienated half the ex JW community.
A perfect example of FAFO.
I wish there could be a truce, what if he really was sorry and dropped the stupid lawsuit and then mag 7 said they accepted his apology and everyone moved on.
The situation is entirely of his own making, and the perpetuation if it is entirely his doing too. So it's all on him and he gets no sympathy for the state he's in. He's vowed to keep it going and keep harassing people for decades, so he deserves to suffer as long as he keeps that up. Note that not once has he shown any remorse or apologized for the things he's said and done.
what if there could be some unity in the ex JW community again.
We don't need to have unity, which is typically artificial and forced. We don't all have to believe the same things or follow or even like the same people and communities. We're better for being allowed to be diverse in our opinions.
I think the ex JW community is coming close to bringing and end to this evil cult, but it’s messed up the lives of so many and it’s such a shame
It really isn't. The JW org isn't going to go anywhere - that's a lie told by people with patreon subscriptions to sell you. The best the exJW community can do is to make information and support available for those who want to leave, and for those who put some effort into researching things before signing up for anything (a minority, unfortunately). There are also way worse and way more evil cults in the world that are a bigger threat to people than the WTS will ever be.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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I am a sexual being, and my sexuality is not an abomination or something that needs fixing.
How does that reconcile with his claim of having his sexuality 'tampered with' ("show us on the doll where your belief system touched you ...")
Either it needs fixing or it was tampered with, unless the tampering made it 'perfect', in which case what'd the complaint about the tampering exactly?
This is a perfect example of how Lloyd says things, that are convenient at the time, but they don't form a cohesive whole and are contradictory.
As for why he told Kim? Grubby people like him often seem to get a kick out of telling others (especially women) how grubby they are.
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What is worse: 1914 or Beard change
by Gorb inwhat is worse for jw's: changing the 1914 doctrine or allowing beards without the right to say what their opinion is?.
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1914 - the beard things isn't really "doctrine", it's just dress-code level stuff.
1914 is core belief and their justification for being in charge in the first place.
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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)
by Simon inuh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.
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It's odd to have the police involves just to deliver court correspondence for a case he initiated. If he doesn't respond, it's on him, and the thing is cancelled.
Wouldn't it be hilarious if he'd included something in his "evidence" that incriminated himself with something. Remember: he really is that dumb.