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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  There are so many people who are getting shunned by JW relatives. By all accounts, the in-laws have been quite lenient towards them per JW rules. They even allowed him to build an apostate studio underneath their living quarters!

  Most would be disfellowshipped for this - many aren't allowed to speak to relatives that don't even live with them. So either the WTS cares so little about him that they don't bother to keep track of what he's doing (which I think is most likely) or they like what he was doing and wouldn't want to risk preventing it (a bit far-fetched)
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Lloyd stated that the book had traumatised him as a kid, but he is so emotionally retarded that he doesn’t see how he’s doing it again with them.

  I don't think anyone was ever truly traumatized by that book. Have people not read traditional fairly stories, like Hansel and Gretel? They are freaky scary.

  Trying to make out you have some kind of PTSD due to it is pure hyperbole.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  How can someone that comes from a culture of “beans on toast” criticize another country’s dishes?

  Sorry, but this crosses a line - beans on toast is the perfect quick / cheap food. Beans on toast, with cheese melted on top, and HP sauce is "chef kiss" good.
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  The only slightly amusing thing he says is that he wasn't allowed to be gay, then "I'm not gay, but it would have been nice to have the option." ha ha ha ha ha zzzzzzzzz

  IMO, no heterosexual male would ever voice the opinion that "it would have been nice to have the option to be gay". It's simply unthinkable to consider.

  So maybe he is gay, but one of those that hates themselves and tries to prove to themselves they are not by paying women to have sex?
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  In the book he described his father as an unsuccessful salesman who was often unemployed. His mum would often have to take up side jobs like a nanny or housecleaner to make ends meet.

  Sounds like they'd be the type of JW that put more effort into milking the benefit system than finding work.

  Poor parenting may be where some people learn to be work-shy.
  
  
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  They might have gotten feedback that recruitment is harder because of people reasoning that God is really an asshole if he's going to be killing a shit-ton of people who never had a chance to learn "the truth".

  Religiots have no winning argument when it comes to addressing this issue.

  People generally find psychopathic killers unappealing. It's an easier sell that he's a "loving god" (the fundamental cornerstone of the whole belief system) if he gives people a chance.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Periodic reminder: not everyone who leaves the WTS does so for noble reasons. Many are kicked out because they don't adhere to the basic standards of behavior, as is the case of Lloyd. Some want to make a home for themselves as an apostate even though they didn't really leave for that reason, but it sounds more noble to claim to be some kind of freedom fighter than just another sexual pervert. So people need to be careful. In fact, some of those who are kicked out are precisely the type of grubby little men that first triggered others to question the claims that it was a "spirit directed" organization in the first place, and took part in the sort of behaviors that made them want to flee it.
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  Lloyd Evans Patreoff Pool February 2024

  by DerekMoors in

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  happy new year!

  time to give us your vote for lloyd's fall from grace this month.. december 6th he was at 406. as of today, january 3rd, he's at 388. that is exactly, on the dot, where he was january 3rd of last year!

  he's lost all gains from his begging videos and reminders and tin cup waving and etc.. so, fire up the shrooms and let us know where you think flab boy will be on february 2nd.

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  I just had a funny thought ...

  I bet statistically, Lloyds patreon page is one of the most visited as everyone checks on his count. So someone at Patreon is probably scratching their head thinking "I don't get it, this guy seems to be popular in one way, but then his subscribers are just haemorrhaging away!"
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  You're a musician. You're campaigning for the rights of artists to be paid fairly for their work. You discover one of your fellow campaigners has bought a bag full of knock-off CDs from the local market. You think it's fine. You're an idiot.

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  You're a vegan. You're campaigning for animal rights and an end to the meat / factory farming industry. You discover one of your fellow campaigners has been gorging themselves at the cheap unlicensed burger van. You think it's fine. You're an idiot.

  Any combination of someone supporting a worse, illegal / unregulated version of the very thing you claim to be an activist against, that you don't see any problem with, and you continue to support them, means you are a grade A fucking idiot of low moral character who lacks integrity and makes poor life choices.
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  But how much DAMAGE has he done? At what point does the damage & abuse outweigh the good?

  This seems to be the twisted logic that some try to use to excuse their support: "but he's done some good!"

  Is that how it works? What exactly are the trades involved?

  If you campaign enough for women's rights do you get a pass to rape someone?

  What if you feed 1,000 orphans is it OK if you fiddle with some kids?

  No - there is no amount of good that builds up any kind of "bank" to offset when you do harm to others.

  After all, didn't Jimmy Saville do a lot for charity?