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Something to think about:
Patreon is 'great' for hooking up with donors, but they do take a cut. Anyone with half a brain will try to divert people into sending money directly (PayPal, or whatever) so they get more of it, especially if Patreon isn't really being used to provide people with any actual rewards, it's just a begging bowl.
So don't limit Lloyd's potential income to calculations based purely on Patreon numbers. He's likely tapping some people for money directly.
Another one
It made me chuckle
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I'm just saying it smells like BS. Not entirely 100% impossible, sure, but, certainly implausible.
Sometimes you come across people that lie even when there doesn't seem to be any reason or benefit to doing so. I think some people actually get a kick out of "fooling" people and presenting something that isn't true and seeing it accepted, even though there is no real gain from doing so.
Personally, I assume that he's untruthful about most things and out to deceive people for some reason. So I wouldn't be at all surprised if it was mostly lies all from the outset.
It's like the fable of the Scorpion and the Frog:
A scorpion wants to cross a river but cannot swim, so it asks a frog to carry it across. The frog hesitates, afraid that the scorpion might sting it, but the scorpion promises not to, pointing out that it would drown if it killed the frog in the middle of the river. The frog considers this argument sensible and agrees to transport the scorpion. Midway across the river, the scorpion stings the frog anyway, dooming them both. The dying frog asks the scorpion why it stung despite knowing the consequence, to which the scorpion replies: "I am sorry, but I couldn't resist the urge. It's my character."
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Two videos and a canceled Zoom call. He says this is his job and he considers the donations to be his wages.
Amazing isn't it, and then he'll be asking "why is my channel and patreon support falling?!?"
Because the deal wasn't that people just give you money for nothing, you dumb-ass!
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As Lloyd has been using drugs for some time now and built up a tolerance for them, she hasn’t and was literally on the floor tripping and wondering if she should take herself to hospital. Lloyd was passed out in the other room from his intoxication and she was worried about the girls who now had two parents strung out on drugs in the hotel suite.
Great parenting (not!)
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It's funny how he's making videos as though he's pushing back the frontiers of philosophy rather than adding nothing new to a subject that has already been done to death since before we were even born.
In 20+ years of this forum, we've done the logical paradox of an all powerful and loving god but an evil world and suffering, many many times.
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"Not a good time to be a Lloyd Evans", LOL
https://twitter.com/AndrewGold_ok/status/1781277862093377710
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The newly out will likely be facing challenging situations with friends and family - so wearing anything that mocks the religion and those still in it is likely to be antagonistic and do little to help with those relationships.
Anyone long out doesn't want and doesn't need to advertise to the world that they were once in, and are just going to get funny looks and feel embarrassed by the time they've finished explaining the meaning to anyone who asks.
So that leaves those who make themselves dependent on their exJW grief, and think it makes them part of some new club rather than it being that they stopped belonging to their previous group. I don't think taking money off people, even those that imagine you're doing something for them, is truly helping them. It's just taking advantage of someone's vulnerable state.
About the only people who would be wearing things like that are high profile activist types. It's a cheap gag to wear on a youtube for self-publicity. The only purpose it serves IMO is as a reminder / suggestion for people to send $$$, and that it's a commercial enterprise.
It showed the divide in America is less to do with race and more todo with money.
