In this forum I found and interesting topic started by Leolaia 12 years ago, who talked about the Book of Enoch. I invite you to read it... it is very interesting. She posted also good and very informative topics. The information she posted influenced me to be curious and interested in history of religion. Thank you so much Leolaia wherever you are!!!!
ironsnake656
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Why is Enoch referenced in the bible but his book omitted?
by Ursula inwhy is enoch referenced in the bible but his book omitted?.
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A brief history about controlling cults: JW in France during 1998
by ironsnake656 ini was reading a master degree thesis from a student from universidad autonoma de nuevo leon, regarding religious associations taxation in mexico on it there is a note/citation from a open letter that the watchtower sent to the president of france, and paid the new your times to publish it, regarding the attack and violation of human rights by imposing a taxation of 60% of the donations given in a period of 4 years.
i don't know if you had heard about it, but for me it is the first time i know about this letter.
here is the link of the letter:.
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ironsnake656
I was reading a Master degree thesis from a student from Universidad Autonoma de Nuevo Leon, regarding religious associations taxation in Mexico On it there is a note/citation from a open letter that the Watchtower sent to the president of France, and paid The New Your Times to publish it, regarding the attack and violation of human rights by imposing a taxation of 60% of the donations given in a period of 4 years. I don't know if you had heard about it, but for me it is the first time I know about this letter. Here is the link of the letter:
http://web.archive.org/web/20091027085613/http://www.geocities.com/dinge13/francia/NYTIMES.JPG
Besides, in the thesis the student adds information regarding a report given in Bethel about the France taxation issue during July '98, and there it is explained why France government imposed the taxation:
"As you remember in 1994 and 1995, a cult called "The Solar Temple" appeared in the newsletters headlines with homicides and suicides occurred in Canada, Switzerland, and France. This resulted in many "vigilant cults" groups grow throughout France. The government formed a commission to analyze cults and give recommendations. This is the moment when apostates "jumped in the car", and they claimed that JW have the highest rate of suicides that the rest of the population. In January, 1996, the Gest-Guyard Report established that in France exist 173 "Dangerous Cults", and in the list was included the JW.
This commission recommended the government to exert control in these cults, within the framework of "tax laws". Immediately, the JW Association was audited by the Government. The audit that lasted one year revealed that it was a non-profit organization, and it is not engaged in commercial activities (!!!!). But the government considered that printing bibles, and distribution of religious magazines were not appropriate activities for Christian worship." (Pag. 31 and 32). (When did the government determine which activities are appropriate for Christians?).
"Actually, it is very probable that soon apostates will notice this, will filtrate to the media and make the Society like law offenders, whose disastrous acts have been finally discovered by Officials. So, the Governing Body decided that it will be prudent to take action in an anticipated form, to approach to the media first, in order to give a positive impression." (Pag.33).
What do you think? Do you think that JW will act like this now that there is negative information in some countries about the child abuse, in case that governments act against them (taxation, ban)?
Here is the master thesis:
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Have a friend who only speaks Spanish and want him/her to learn TTATT? www.verdadtj.com
by ILoveTTATT2 inif you have a friend who only speaks spanish, or they speak english but spanish is their preferred language, i am pleased to tell you that there is a spanish translation of jwfacts in progress.
so far, these are the completely translated articles:asociación de la watchtower con las naciones unidas - un ngo associationcelebración de los cumpleaños - birthdayslas transfusiones de sangre - bloodpredicción fallida de 1975 - 1975¿por qué está mal el ser un testigo de jehová?
- what's wrong with being a jw?escándalos de la watchtower - watchtower scandalsexpulsión y rechazo - disfellowshippingfolleto general acerca de la watchtower - pdf - general pdf about wtvideo - crecer como testigo de jehová - growing up a jw¿debería estar jehová en el nuevo testamento?
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ironsnake656
I worked in a company as a translator from English to Spanish. I you need help, I'm available to contribute in translations.
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Episode 6 - Life Gets Dark As One Of Jehovah's Witnesses - Is Live Now
by dubstepped inepisode 6 of this jw life is now live.
it is a brutally honest, at times dark, look into what it was like behind the scenes in our lives.
people don't talk openly about ugly parts of their lives and it leads to other people feeling alone when theirs gets ugly.
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Dubstepped, I had enjoyed your experience! thanks for sharing. Can you please write the name of the ADHD book you referred and its author??
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Seth Andrews. "The Thinking Athiest" If you have not yet heard of him, do yourself a favour!
by stuckinarut2 infor those who now lean toward non-belief in religion or theism or deism, or who identify as atheist, you have to check out all of seth andrews work!he was raised as a fundamentalist christian in the usa, and was a pastor, and christain radio host until he awoke.
he now is an atheist and hosts a great podcast called "the thinking athiest".
you will find great videos on youtube, as well as his weekly podcast:.
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ironsnake656
Here is the podcast of JWs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHnLC3tY3JU&index=201&list=PLC4FC68E9C1D65BFC
And the one of the End of the World
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BL_W1EMto7k&index=238&list=PLC4FC68E9C1D65BFC
Very interesting info!!
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Seth Andrews. "The Thinking Athiest" If you have not yet heard of him, do yourself a favour!
by stuckinarut2 infor those who now lean toward non-belief in religion or theism or deism, or who identify as atheist, you have to check out all of seth andrews work!he was raised as a fundamentalist christian in the usa, and was a pastor, and christain radio host until he awoke.
he now is an atheist and hosts a great podcast called "the thinking athiest".
you will find great videos on youtube, as well as his weekly podcast:.
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ironsnake656
Yeah!! Seth Andrews!! I heard his podcasts when I was in the process of fading. There is one podcast about JW's and there he interviewed some ex-JW's. Also, he talked with one ex-JW in a podcast related with the End of Times. Pretty interesting the topics discussed by this guy. The problem is that is no too popular because his agenda is atheism. I recommend to listen his shows.
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My awakening and concern
by Issa ingood evening everyone, i go by issa.
as many former ex-witnesses, i "woke up" from believing that the jw org is the "truth".
this happened during this month thanks to information from jw-facts and youtube videos about ex-witnesses' experience in this org.
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ironsnake656
Welcome Issa!! It is good to hear that you are waking up from the "truth", and your story is very interesting. As Sheperdless commented, you need to take time, don't rush in give or introduce a lot of info, since this will be perceived negatively by your family. Try to do more research and get knowledge in order to explain with reasoning to your family your point of views.
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Some Good News About Me (Although Anthony Morris Will Be Furious)
by pale.emperor injust wanted to share with you some good news i'm really excited about.
i have been accepted for university to study psychology and counseling.
my goal is to become a counselor and, in time, to specialize on treating those who have left high control relationships/groups like we all did.. it'll take a few years before im qualified but studying in university has been a dream of mine since i was 12, which was systematically dashed to pieces by watchtower.. .
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ironsnake656
Congratulations, Pale Emperor!!!
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My story...
by ironsnake656 ini would like to share my brief experience about my life from liberal jw to a ex-jw.
as i told you in my first post, i'm from juarez, mexico.
i'm second generation born-in, well not really... my mother knew jwland in 1968 and a year later, she got baptized.
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Nice to meet you Heartsatfire!!1 Glad we are pretty near!!!
you are welcome Pete Zahut and Kiddingme!!!
Never a JW: They decided to open a Noa Noa bar (not the original one) as a memory for Juan Gabriel... Regarding psychology, there is a new and unexplored field named psychology of religion. I will post some articles and information about the new research regarding cults, beliefs, spirituality, etc. from the psychology point of view....
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My story...
by ironsnake656 ini would like to share my brief experience about my life from liberal jw to a ex-jw.
as i told you in my first post, i'm from juarez, mexico.
i'm second generation born-in, well not really... my mother knew jwland in 1968 and a year later, she got baptized.
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ironsnake656
Thank you LoisLane looking for Superman! Actually, the English field is relatively new in Mexico, and few American JW came down to preach in Spanish. The first English congregations were located in San Miguel de Allende, Guanajuato and Mexico City, because there are big communities of US JW's there. And yes, the increase in English field has been noticeable in vacation spots like Guaymas, Cancun, and Puerto Vallarta. The problem here recurrent is the conflict between cultures... brothers that come from NA are not well seen by brothers from Mexico, due to the liberal attitude regarding drink and parties. The brothers in Mexico are, apparently, more formal in the dynamics and liturgy in the JWland.
