HI dolphman
Honestly, this had nothing to do with porn ;-). Fortunately I have no idea who ths guy is. But I won't argue you with you if you have your favourite pornstars - whatever gets you through the night
Sincere
some may remember me (possibly not).
i am a former elder of 10 years, all my family are still in ?the truth?
and all the males are elders in various levels of responsibility.
some may remember me (possibly not).
i am a former elder of 10 years, all my family are still in ?the truth?
and all the males are elders in various levels of responsibility.
Hi Odrade
I know exactly what you are saying - sadly, when even tvery intelligent men allow themselves to be subjected to the legalistic thinking of the Society there is very little one can do to change that. They have allowed their identity to become inexorably linked with that of the WTS and they have a definite fear of relinquishing it, of saying they were wrong.
I know, I was like that and it devastated me to find much I had based my persona on was a sham..
My view is not to threaten your loved ones - just love them and keep the relationship going
Sincere
some may remember me (possibly not).
i am a former elder of 10 years, all my family are still in ?the truth?
and all the males are elders in various levels of responsibility.
Hi
Some may remember me (possibly not). I am a former elder of 10 years, all my family are still in ?the Truth? and all the males are elders in various levels of responsibility. I am not DA or DF and still have a relatively good relationship with most of my Witness friends and family.
I have been reading a book by Clem Sunter, a famous South African Scenario Planner (also a Director of Anglo American), called ?The Mind of a Fox?. In it he discusses ?Rules of the Game? of life, of business - it is brilliant. He contrasts the flexible thinking of a fox with the single-mindedness of a ?hedgehog?.
Here?s a quote from his book, which I think applies brilliantly to the WTS and many, many Witnesses who exist in cognitive dissonance (especially the piece about shoehorning facts to support the ideology):
?In brief, a hedgehog is a person? (or organization) ?who believes that life revolves around one big idea, one ultimate truth, and that if only we can get to that idea or truth, everything else will come right. Once programmed or hooked on an idea, or even worse an ideology, a hedgehog cannot shake it off. Alternatives are irrelevant. As opposed to searching for a hypothesis which most closely fits the facts, a hedgehog will shoehorn the facts into something which will support his ideology, however much the arguments have to be distorted.?
The question is, what is that one ultimate truth to the Organization ? I believe it is this ?This is God?s True Organization, the Truth, the only means by which we may attain salvation?.
Any comments?
Regards
Sincere
i will be coming to the uk shortly for business from south africa.
and would love to meet get together on an evening with anybody who.
may be in the london area for a pint of the good stuff and a chat.. any takers?.
Hi
I will be coming to the UK shortly for business from South Africa
and would love to meet get together on an evening with anybody who
may be in the London area for a pint of the good stuff and a chat.
Any takers?
Cheers
Sincere
well, tonights the night that all good dubs from this part of the uk will soon start the trek home from the cardiff assembly.
with a bit of luck, i will shortly be having a few beers with the only non-relative jw that i will even acknowledge, my old mate, the dub in the pub.
he's an elder, so the rules about not speaking with df'd people don't apply to him.. ive noticed that most jws fall into 2 distinct categories of post assembly trauma following the bounteous feast of light.. on the one hand there is the exhausted, hungry, thank-god-thats-over-for-another-year dub who is just longing to dump the kids at school, get back to work and mix with some real people for christs sake.
Hi Englishman
I think the reality of it is that you will find most of the Witnesses returning, feeling hugely relieved that it is over, but inwardly trying to convince themsleves that it was all worth it and made perfect, upbuilding sense.
But since half the talks were only a semi-hypnotic murmur (as they pondered what work would be like, how to get that new project off the groundm the kids' education etc.), and those symposiums on the miraculous application of Hezekiah or Habbakuk to the modern-day people of Jah didn't really add up, they will quickly forget the meeting and hope that sometime the holy spirit will bring it all to the fore in the time of need .
But truthfully, the one aspect they will remember, is the pleasant association. Now there's the real merit (if you can still do all the aforementioned things) of attending assemblies - a nice hello to old friends, and then a gentle turning off of the brain for a few days.
Regards
Sincere
Whoopie!!!!!!!!
And the Boks won - hey, a win is a win! So what if it is the weakest team in world rugby.
i have had my jw cousin and his wife and three children staying at my house since sunday.
i thought i'd just share a few experiences with you all.. my husband and i are marveling at the numerous compromises they have made since coming here to washington state from wisconsin.
they are here to visit his disfellowshipped mother who has cancer.
Hi Princess
You should do what my wife does.
She simply says things like, "For breakfast tomorrow, I'll put out some bowls and cereal. Please help yourselves - and don't worry about packing the dishes away when you've washed them"
Or me (much more tactful) "Hey honey, that was a great meal, wasn't it? Would have done a restuarant proud! OK, who's washing up? You Mary? I'll dry - Hank, you pack away OK."
And so on and so forth. No freeloaders when we have guests. They either enjoy it better or they find somewhere else to go.
No seriously, don't try let your guests think they're at home - it's
YOUR home, let them fit in or make alternative arrangements.
My two cents worth.
Be strong :-)
Sincere
i have been lurking for a while and thought it time to post.. i am aware of many of the names from the old h2o days and it is a. pleasure to see you again.. briefly, i come from south africa.
stepped aside as an elder 3 years.
ago and am still 'associated' for the sake of my family, but inactive.
Hi
I have been lurking for a while and thought it time to post.
I am aware of many of the names from the old H2O days and it is a
pleasure to see you again.
Briefly, I come from South Africa. Stepped aside as an elder 3 years
ago and am still 'associated' for the sake of my family, but inactive
for two years. I keep a low profile and have determined to do what it
takes to keep my family together without undue interference from
the elders.
I devote most of my time to my business and family (not necessarily
in that order) - and my religion is my family now.
I look forward to some discussion.
Cheers
Sincere