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  WT-Says Moms Should not Work

  by leaving-jws in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the feb 1, 2008 wt has an article on p. 28 called finding fulfillment as a mother.

  the article basically states that moms should not work outside of the home but stay at home with their kids to teach them things about jehovah.

  it also states that moms that want to work outside the home full-time do so not out of economic necessity but to boost their self worth, to obtain financial independence or to pay for luxuries.

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  Yes, I'd also like a scan of this article.

  Thanks

  Sirona
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  There is no 'right' for British women to have pain relief when in labour!

  by Gill in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my neighbours daughter recently gave birth in a large uk teaching hospital to her second child.. the baby was a very large 10 lb boy and the labour went horrendously, during which grandma and the mother's partner had to argue with medical staff for help and pain relief.. they were told that women in labour have no 'right' to pain relief in the united kingdom and despite the fact that this young woman was screaming in total despair for nearly fifteen hours before four doctors turned up to help her and give her an epidural anaesthetic., she had no help but gas and air which didn't help her at all.

  the hospital was crowded with young polish women also giving birth and the staff midwives told the girl's mother that they had to concentrate on these polish young women as they did not speak english and many of their babies were at risk because they were so small.. this young woman did not even have a private room to herself but was in a crowded ward!.

  the young neighbour's baby twice went into distress with his heart rate dropping desperately low.

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  I've decided to have a Doula.

  http://www.doula.org.uk/

  Doula" (pronounced "doola") is a Greek word meaning "woman servant or caregiver". It now refers to an experienced woman who offers emotional and practical support to a woman (or couple) before, during and after childbirth. A doula believes in “mothering the mother” - enabling a woman to have the most satisfying and empowered time that she can during pregnancy, birth and the early days as a new mum. This type of support also helps the whole family to relax and enjoy the experience.

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  Moral Values of an Atheist

  by hamilcarr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  some thoughts spinning through my head .... what does it mean to be an atheist?

  it means you cannot imagine your homosexual neighbor being slaughtered by a loving god at judgment's day, it means you don't consider the primitive tribe described in numbers 31 that slew midianite men and raped innocent virgins to be god's first covenant people, it means you don't believe mankind is so perverted that it is in need of salvation through a man who came 'not with peace, but with a sword', it means you have high moral values that apply not only to the members of your denomination but to all men.. h. .

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  Witness007 - consider buddhism. Their god isn't the same one as the Christians - many buddhists believe in God as an abstract concept rather than an old man in the sky who decides or doesn't decide to intervene.

  So if you base your non-belief on rejection of the Christian god, you are failing to see that there are many other concepts of "god" out there and many other philosophies regarding why there is suffering on this planet.

  Some ideas on god actually allow for evolution (gasp!)

  My personal philosophy centres on divinity existing as an all pervading force. Also that we are all part of god and we all evolve with the divine since there is no separation - we each carry divinity within us and we may or may not choose to tap into it.

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  Moral Values of an Atheist

  by hamilcarr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  some thoughts spinning through my head .... what does it mean to be an atheist?

  it means you cannot imagine your homosexual neighbor being slaughtered by a loving god at judgment's day, it means you don't consider the primitive tribe described in numbers 31 that slew midianite men and raped innocent virgins to be god's first covenant people, it means you don't believe mankind is so perverted that it is in need of salvation through a man who came 'not with peace, but with a sword', it means you have high moral values that apply not only to the members of your denomination but to all men.. h. .

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  Hi Sirona,

  I totally agree with what you're saying. There are many groups sharing the same values. This post was principally directed to all christians who believe that the Bible is God's inspired word and a reliable guide for our modern world.

  H.

  Therefore you should have started out by asserting that you think that Atheists have more (or just as much) moral fibre as Christians. As it stands, you appeared to be saying that non-believers are morally superior. Now (above) you say there are many "groups" sharing the same values. Therefore atheists are no different from the rest of us morally and your thread becomes almost irrelevant. Sirona
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  I've just become a father

  by jwfacts in

  1. jw
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  i have been married for 10 years and have two wonderful step kids, 15 and 21. being a jw i did not want a child as life seemed so pointless.

  things changed for the better since leaving and i am now the proud father of a big baby boy zac - 9pounds (4.1kg), 52cm long and huge lungs.

  my wife is filipino so the baby looks very asian at the moment.

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  WOW!

  Congratulations, he is gorgeous

  Sirona
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  Moral Values of an Atheist

  by hamilcarr in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  some thoughts spinning through my head .... what does it mean to be an atheist?

  it means you cannot imagine your homosexual neighbor being slaughtered by a loving god at judgment's day, it means you don't consider the primitive tribe described in numbers 31 that slew midianite men and raped innocent virgins to be god's first covenant people, it means you don't believe mankind is so perverted that it is in need of salvation through a man who came 'not with peace, but with a sword', it means you have high moral values that apply not only to the members of your denomination but to all men.. h. .

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  What does it mean to be an atheist? It means you cannot imagine your homosexual neighbor being slaughtered by a loving God at Judgment's Day, it means you don't consider the primitive tribe described in Numbers 31 that slew Midianite men and raped innocent virgins to be God's first covenant people, it means you don't believe mankind is so perverted that it is in need of salvation through a man who came 'not with peace, but with a sword', it means you have high moral values that apply not only to the members of your denomination but to all men.

  H.

  One thing annoys me about your post. You assume that someone is either atheist or they're a bible believer or a christian.

  I have all the values you stated but I am not atheist. I'm neopagan.

  Sirona
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  Hardcore evangelical intellectual just fell for an enlightened JW girl

  by Stuartmc in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  i'm new here, but am mightily impressed with the insights, care and compassion exhibited here.

  i like to briefly share my story and receive some insights and "good counsel" from you good folks.

  here goes- i'm a 49 year old lawyer, whose been divorced for 8 years.

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  There are two issues here: Will she leave the JWs? and, If she leaves the JWs, will she become a born-again Christian?

  If she doesn't leave the JWs, I'd say the relationship is doomed 100%. Sorry but that is my opinion. My mother is JW and my step father is not. My mother is a "liberal" JW but they have had lots of problems despite this.

  If she does leave the JWs, you are already mapping out for her a new religion. That isn't fair in my opinion. She should be able to leave the JWs and be religion free if she so wishes, without any pressure from you.

  Also, if she chooses to not become born again, how would you feel?

  SIrona
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  Hardcore evangelical intellectual just fell for an enlightened JW girl

  by Stuartmc in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  i'm new here, but am mightily impressed with the insights, care and compassion exhibited here.

  i like to briefly share my story and receive some insights and "good counsel" from you good folks.

  here goes- i'm a 49 year old lawyer, whose been divorced for 8 years.

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  Sirona

  There are two issues here: Will she leave the JWs? and, If she leaves the JWs, will she become a born-again Christian?

  If she doesn't leave the JWs, I'd say the relationship is doomed 100%. Sorry but that is my opinion. My mother is JW and my step father is not. My mother is a "liberal" JW but they have had lots of problems despite this.

  If she does leave the JWs, you are already mapping out for her a new religion. That isn't fair in my opinion. She should be able to leave the JWs and be religion free if she so wishes, without any pressure from you.

  Also, if she chooses to not become born again, how would you feel?

  SIrona
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  There is no 'right' for British women to have pain relief when in labour!

  by Gill in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my neighbours daughter recently gave birth in a large uk teaching hospital to her second child.. the baby was a very large 10 lb boy and the labour went horrendously, during which grandma and the mother's partner had to argue with medical staff for help and pain relief.. they were told that women in labour have no 'right' to pain relief in the united kingdom and despite the fact that this young woman was screaming in total despair for nearly fifteen hours before four doctors turned up to help her and give her an epidural anaesthetic., she had no help but gas and air which didn't help her at all.

  the hospital was crowded with young polish women also giving birth and the staff midwives told the girl's mother that they had to concentrate on these polish young women as they did not speak english and many of their babies were at risk because they were so small.. this young woman did not even have a private room to herself but was in a crowded ward!.

  the young neighbour's baby twice went into distress with his heart rate dropping desperately low.

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  Which hospital was it? You say it was a training hospital?

  I'm pregnant and British, so of course this news is news to me!

  My local hospitals all offer various types of pain relief as standard. I have yet to choose which one to give birth in.

  Sirona
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  Premonitions and Prayer - Explained!

  by Seeker4 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  yesterday and today i had a couple of things happen to me that i think tie in well with why many people believe in the supernatural, or in their ability to foresee events.

  yesterday, i had to travel a few hundred miles to do an interview for a magazine article, and i knew stormy weather was coming here in vermont.

  i had a bad feeling about the trip and the possible weather complications, so much so that i actually called my insurance company and checked on my coverage.

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  Hi Seeker,

  Thanks for the reply

  I'm a "believer" in the sense that I have personally experienced things which have been outside the realms of "normal" (whatever normal is!).

  However, I am in agreement with you 100% that we cannot believe everything we hear. I honestly think that the majority of stories and anecdotes can be explained by reasonable explanation. I've had people tell me of their "ghostly" experiences and whilst I don't doubt their belief, I often find myself thinking of entirely rational explanations for their experience (like faulty electrics, noisy pipes, altered state of awareness, group delusion, etc.)

  The thing is, whilst we can point to all the nut cases out there who make wierd voices and channel lord zoid of the delta quadrant, we can't say that everything is created in the mind of the individual in every case.

  This leads us to some experiments which have been conducted. There are far more than the two I quoted. It appears that sometimes unexplained phenomena occur. Sometimes there are premonitions (I choose this because of the title of your thread). If the human body "knows" seconds before something appears that its going to appear - this in some way proves a type of precognition doesn't it?

  As a pagan who believes in the power of the human mind and in the existence of some type of divinity, I hate it when someone tars everyone with the same brush. Not all believers are illogical loonies!

  Sirona