Posts by Sirona

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Diary of a thinking to return ex-Jw

by reniaa in

i thought long and hard about posting this but the mis-information on this site finally persuaded me, i already accept many may not accept what i say on face value and get their appologist pens ready for making sure no pro-witness propaganda slips through the net on this site but here goes....... i've been on this forum for a few months my first post was about how i was thinking of returning to jw's and at my sisters recommendation to look at this site for both sides of the story before taking that step.. i faded from jw's 10/11 years ago now i left my hubby at the time divorced him to going on to have more relationships and kids, i was definately given the impression after asking on this site and with what i read that if i tried to return i might face df or at least a jc but definately a couple of elders questioning me over what i've been upto these last few years - none of these have happened.

i talked with an old jw friend (yes i do have then and she never shunned me quite happily accepted an offer of coffee from me and my asking for a chat) i told her i was interested in going back and was very frank about what i done in the last 10 years but not sure how returning was done now, she quite happily said she go ask for me to find out.. result!

she came back this week and said "all i had to do was goto meetings again" and an offer of a study was there for me if i wanted it to explore the open doubts that i had expressed i now had.. not quite the fire and brimstone welcome this site led me to believe would happen.. i will keep you posted with further updates if i feel the need to put them in future.. .

Sirona

I posted this on the other thread:

Chikikie,

I do want a resolution to this, because its clearly gone too far.

OK.

I am sorry if I have falsely accused you and your sister. I apologise.

Many of us were hurt by previous things happening on this board, and personally I feel really angry if I think someone is lying and pretending to be something they are not.

From my standpoint in all this, I've been highlighting my doubts about you two. From your standpoint you see that as attacking. I didn't intend to actually "attack" I simply intended to make my point and make others aware too because I think its important for others to know if there is something fishy going on. Now I admit I might have been wrong in that.

Now. I won't mention these doubts again.

Sirona

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Diary of a thinking to return ex-Jw

by reniaa in

i thought long and hard about posting this but the mis-information on this site finally persuaded me, i already accept many may not accept what i say on face value and get their appologist pens ready for making sure no pro-witness propaganda slips through the net on this site but here goes....... i've been on this forum for a few months my first post was about how i was thinking of returning to jw's and at my sisters recommendation to look at this site for both sides of the story before taking that step.. i faded from jw's 10/11 years ago now i left my hubby at the time divorced him to going on to have more relationships and kids, i was definately given the impression after asking on this site and with what i read that if i tried to return i might face df or at least a jc but definately a couple of elders questioning me over what i've been upto these last few years - none of these have happened.

i talked with an old jw friend (yes i do have then and she never shunned me quite happily accepted an offer of coffee from me and my asking for a chat) i told her i was interested in going back and was very frank about what i done in the last 10 years but not sure how returning was done now, she quite happily said she go ask for me to find out.. result!

she came back this week and said "all i had to do was goto meetings again" and an offer of a study was there for me if i wanted it to explore the open doubts that i had expressed i now had.. not quite the fire and brimstone welcome this site led me to believe would happen.. i will keep you posted with further updates if i feel the need to put them in future.. .

Sirona

Earnest,

You are welcome to your opinion. I don't agree that "rampant bullying" has gone on.

I'm direct in the way I say things. I also have expressed my doubts regarding the two of them. On this thread, someone else raised doubts and I reminded everyone of what I'd said previously. Subsequently, several people have expressed doubts - are we going to accuse them all of bullying? Just for saying what they think might be going on?

I think that since the Trevor issue we should be able to voice doubts if we have them. This way, people are aware and don't get dragged into dramas which *might* be fabricated.

I have personally seen far more "nastiness" occuring in other threads on politics and on religious doctrine - but the participants are able to hold their own and debate - sometimes hotly - without having to resort to accusations of bullying. Now I don't condone calling names like "whore" at all - I haven't personally done that - and I think that doing that would be out of order. But having a debate and getting passionate about it IS NOT bullying, IMO.

Sirona

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Diary of a thinking to return ex-Jw

by reniaa in

i thought long and hard about posting this but the mis-information on this site finally persuaded me, i already accept many may not accept what i say on face value and get their appologist pens ready for making sure no pro-witness propaganda slips through the net on this site but here goes....... i've been on this forum for a few months my first post was about how i was thinking of returning to jw's and at my sisters recommendation to look at this site for both sides of the story before taking that step.. i faded from jw's 10/11 years ago now i left my hubby at the time divorced him to going on to have more relationships and kids, i was definately given the impression after asking on this site and with what i read that if i tried to return i might face df or at least a jc but definately a couple of elders questioning me over what i've been upto these last few years - none of these have happened.

i talked with an old jw friend (yes i do have then and she never shunned me quite happily accepted an offer of coffee from me and my asking for a chat) i told her i was interested in going back and was very frank about what i done in the last 10 years but not sure how returning was done now, she quite happily said she go ask for me to find out.. result!

she came back this week and said "all i had to do was goto meetings again" and an offer of a study was there for me if i wanted it to explore the open doubts that i had expressed i now had.. not quite the fire and brimstone welcome this site led me to believe would happen.. i will keep you posted with further updates if i feel the need to put them in future.. .

Sirona

I just got an abusive PM from Chikikie - unprompted - calling me a "stupid stupid woman" and accusing me of calling Reniaa a "whore". I didn't call Reniaa a whore that is a total lie.

She also said "no wonder you got DF'd" - fact is, I didn't get DF'd....I'm neither DF'd or DA'd.

I strongly advise everyone on this forum to be very careful - I have let people know the facts and they can draw their own conclusions.

Sirona

PS in my whole time at JWD I have never fallen out with anyone on this board...my track record speaks for itself.

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Mother Pregnant With 18th Child

by snowbird in

there were 13 of us - one baby girl died in infancy, however.. here's the link: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24537885&gt1=43001.

sylvia.

Sirona

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24537885/

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"The Missionary Position". JWs vs Mormons in YouTube street brawl.

by Open mind in

here's a pretty well made short film on youtube called "the missionary position" that i enjoyed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mbubw8bmk8.

actually, the first 1 minute & 45 seconds are hilarious and well done, imho.

Sirona

The link says video removed cos of violation!

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GB sidles out of 1919 and puts 1914 in the bin. (WT study.)!!

by hamsterbait in

has anybody noticed in many recent watchtowers that christ is now said to have "turned his attention to the earth in 1914.".

unlike the 60's they do not say christ "came" in 1914. the "proclaimers book " p137 says the bible students came to discern that "christ did not return, (even invisibly), in 1914.".

the way is now paved.

Sirona

Hamsterbait just started a new thread admitting this one was a FAKE.

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Yeah - 1919 HAS to go first.

by hamsterbait in

on this board some have said that 1914 cannot be ditched, otherwise the 1919 faithful and discreet slave and its appointment will not hold water.. my recent - yes - fake article showed, using the tried and tested methods, how this could be done.. the only way to ditch the 1914 teaching is to uncouple any doctrines which depend on that date.. separation of sheep and goats since 1914 gone.. the generation change has now gone.. the invisible return of christ in 1914 has gone.

( watered down to "turned his attention" to the earth.).

all that remains is the appointment of the "slave" 3 and a half years later in 1919. the order in which this is happening is following the sequence above, which i reckoned would happen, after i heard the talk in 1993 about the "celestial phenomena", and the new application of "when you see these things.".

Sirona

Well you could have had the decency to let us know that before now.

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Diary of a thinking to return ex-Jw

by reniaa in

i thought long and hard about posting this but the mis-information on this site finally persuaded me, i already accept many may not accept what i say on face value and get their appologist pens ready for making sure no pro-witness propaganda slips through the net on this site but here goes....... i've been on this forum for a few months my first post was about how i was thinking of returning to jw's and at my sisters recommendation to look at this site for both sides of the story before taking that step.. i faded from jw's 10/11 years ago now i left my hubby at the time divorced him to going on to have more relationships and kids, i was definately given the impression after asking on this site and with what i read that if i tried to return i might face df or at least a jc but definately a couple of elders questioning me over what i've been upto these last few years - none of these have happened.

i talked with an old jw friend (yes i do have then and she never shunned me quite happily accepted an offer of coffee from me and my asking for a chat) i told her i was interested in going back and was very frank about what i done in the last 10 years but not sure how returning was done now, she quite happily said she go ask for me to find out.. result!

she came back this week and said "all i had to do was goto meetings again" and an offer of a study was there for me if i wanted it to explore the open doubts that i had expressed i now had.. not quite the fire and brimstone welcome this site led me to believe would happen.. i will keep you posted with further updates if i feel the need to put them in future.. .

Sirona

Whats very interesting is that Chikikie joined this forum on 11 March 08 at 10.31 and Reniaa joined this forum on 11 March 08 at 13.09

Reniaa gave the impression that she'd only joined this forum on her sisters recommendation and she referred to her sister as a "regular member."

Add to this the fact that they've been known to post using the same IP address....

Sirona

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Diary of a thinking to return ex-Jw

by reniaa in

i thought long and hard about posting this but the mis-information on this site finally persuaded me, i already accept many may not accept what i say on face value and get their appologist pens ready for making sure no pro-witness propaganda slips through the net on this site but here goes....... i've been on this forum for a few months my first post was about how i was thinking of returning to jw's and at my sisters recommendation to look at this site for both sides of the story before taking that step.. i faded from jw's 10/11 years ago now i left my hubby at the time divorced him to going on to have more relationships and kids, i was definately given the impression after asking on this site and with what i read that if i tried to return i might face df or at least a jc but definately a couple of elders questioning me over what i've been upto these last few years - none of these have happened.

i talked with an old jw friend (yes i do have then and she never shunned me quite happily accepted an offer of coffee from me and my asking for a chat) i told her i was interested in going back and was very frank about what i done in the last 10 years but not sure how returning was done now, she quite happily said she go ask for me to find out.. result!

she came back this week and said "all i had to do was goto meetings again" and an offer of a study was there for me if i wanted it to explore the open doubts that i had expressed i now had.. not quite the fire and brimstone welcome this site led me to believe would happen.. i will keep you posted with further updates if i feel the need to put them in future.. .

Sirona

I say the whole thing is an elaborate fake, probably from a bi-polar witness. Did you notice in Cheekie's posts how she is way more sexual, where as Reniaa tries to be a ignorant prude in all hers? I truly believe this is a hoax.

LOL

Chikikie is Reniaa's sexy alter ego? Could be.

I wonder if she ever posted any pictures of the newborn baby? I remember Chikikie starting a thread congratulating Reniaa on the birth...

Its Trevor all over again dammit! LOL

Sirona

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Diary of a thinking to return ex-Jw

by reniaa in

i thought long and hard about posting this but the mis-information on this site finally persuaded me, i already accept many may not accept what i say on face value and get their appologist pens ready for making sure no pro-witness propaganda slips through the net on this site but here goes....... i've been on this forum for a few months my first post was about how i was thinking of returning to jw's and at my sisters recommendation to look at this site for both sides of the story before taking that step.. i faded from jw's 10/11 years ago now i left my hubby at the time divorced him to going on to have more relationships and kids, i was definately given the impression after asking on this site and with what i read that if i tried to return i might face df or at least a jc but definately a couple of elders questioning me over what i've been upto these last few years - none of these have happened.

i talked with an old jw friend (yes i do have then and she never shunned me quite happily accepted an offer of coffee from me and my asking for a chat) i told her i was interested in going back and was very frank about what i done in the last 10 years but not sure how returning was done now, she quite happily said she go ask for me to find out.. result!

she came back this week and said "all i had to do was goto meetings again" and an offer of a study was there for me if i wanted it to explore the open doubts that i had expressed i now had.. not quite the fire and brimstone welcome this site led me to believe would happen.. i will keep you posted with further updates if i feel the need to put them in future.. .

Sirona

Maybe Reniaa's plan is to keep us talking to her so that we waste our own time?

Maybe she says ridiculously idiotic things just to bait us into more discussion? (or maybe I'm giving her too much credit to suggest an ulterior motive?)

On the plus side, anyone reading this thread would NOT want to return to JWs based on her comments.

Sirona