gareth knight (real name basil wilby) is an author who i respect.
i have met him - he is getting old now but he's no less intelligent or fascinating.
some 40 years ago he wrote a well respected book called "a practical guide to qabalistic symbolism".
I think the money would be better spent on genuine science that could actually benefit people.
I doubt that respected university scientists could give a rats arse what you think they should do with their funding.
Do you think that you can decide what scientific discoveries the world should be focusing on?
Rather than welcoming knowledge you seem to want to control what is discovered in case the results upset you. That is intellectually dishonest.
Sirona
gareth knight (real name basil wilby) is an author who i respect.
i have met him - he is getting old now but he's no less intelligent or fascinating.
some 40 years ago he wrote a well respected book called "a practical guide to qabalistic symbolism".
What they don't tell you is how many times they repeated the study and got no result or negative results ... ignoring those produces just the effect they are looking for and something for the followers to quote to nasty skeptics eh?
Actually, Simon, they do. This particular study has documented cases of the instances where there was a non-significant result (conducted by others). Still taking into account these studies and adding them together cumulatively, there is an overall statistically significant result.
You ask for scientific experiments to support assertions and I provide them. If you can't accept it then that is your error, not mine.
These studies (and others like them) are conducted with all scientific controls in place. They allow for chance and they allow for randomness of results. They show a significant positive result. The only reason you won't accept them is because it disturbs you to have to admit that something like ESP could exist.
Other scientifically accepted *facts* have been established on less evidence and with less replication - and they are accepted because the skeptics like how it sounds.
Sirona
john 17:3 - redux.
when you've been an active demonized apostate for as long as i have, you would have to conclude that outside of "new light" and current events in dubland, everything that could be written about the follies of the wts has already been written and discussed many times.. yet there are many new ex-dubs who haven't had the time to find this out.
i see it in here all the time.
Farkel
I agree that its an important distinction.
I will assert that a person can come to know God without reading a single verse in the Bible, or any other holy book. I will assert that a person can come to know Jesus, while being ignorant of many of the things written about Jesus.
I agree.
Sirona
gareth knight (real name basil wilby) is an author who i respect.
i have met him - he is getting old now but he's no less intelligent or fascinating.
some 40 years ago he wrote a well respected book called "a practical guide to qabalistic symbolism".
Narkissos,
What I meant is that studies have been conducted which involve testing similar phenomena and these studies have shown results no greater than chance.
So what I'm trying to say is, if you are correct that human beings have a tendency to influence results with their collective minds, we wouldn't find numerous studies where no positive result was found. Surely all studies would show the effect you mentioned.
Instead, we see some studies of particular phenomena showing significant results - indicating that it is the phenomena tested which is occuring (not simply the fact that human minds are involved).
Sirona
gareth knight (real name basil wilby) is an author who i respect.
i have met him - he is getting old now but he's no less intelligent or fascinating.
some 40 years ago he wrote a well respected book called "a practical guide to qabalistic symbolism".
Several minds working apart "at random" are then bound to produce a higher rate of coincidence than pure mathematical random.
But many studies conducted in this manner do not show the same type of result. Many parapsychology studies have been thrown out because this effect didn't appear.
Therefore I don't agree.
Sirona
do the jw's officially have a stand on whether there is or can be intelligent physical life outside our planet?
would contact from or evidence of alien life fit in to what jw's believe and teach?
have they paved the way for the possibility that life may be found elsewhere in our solar system - intelligent or otherwise?
Ah well I remember an article from when I was a dub...
It suggested that UFO experiences were demonic....
Blondie? can you help?
Sirona
i haven't been to london in about 15 years.
i decided to take my kids for their first outing to see the sights.
i remember as a kid going with my mom and nan, we actually went inside the houses of parliament, went in the house of lords, up downing st, but now with the terrorist threats obviously all thats changed.. there is a definate difference in the security aspect of it, but not enough to take the shine off the experience.. we saw the changing of the guard at buckingham palace, the band playing were the ghurka regiment, something i have never seen before.
Avebury
someone had a thread about "smart people" in their congregations.
while i readily admit there were some "good," and "kind" jws in the congregation i grew up in.
and maybe it was the location -- my dad was asked to move there -- but for the most part it was an intellectual sahara.. yet i've noticed that on this forum there are some incredibly "smart" people.
Yes Funky Derek is scarily precise...very intelligent
Sirona
someone had a thread about "smart people" in their congregations.
while i readily admit there were some "good," and "kind" jws in the congregation i grew up in.
and maybe it was the location -- my dad was asked to move there -- but for the most part it was an intellectual sahara.. yet i've noticed that on this forum there are some incredibly "smart" people.
FARKEL is the most intelligent.
Leolaia and Narkissos are close second
Imho
Sirona
i haven't been to london in about 15 years.
i decided to take my kids for their first outing to see the sights.
i remember as a kid going with my mom and nan, we actually went inside the houses of parliament, went in the house of lords, up downing st, but now with the terrorist threats obviously all thats changed.. there is a definate difference in the security aspect of it, but not enough to take the shine off the experience.. we saw the changing of the guard at buckingham palace, the band playing were the ghurka regiment, something i have never seen before.
You can see the house....10 downing street, but you can't go down the street... I think its still the same
I like London.
Gary and I spent a weekend there early in our relationship....ahhhhhhhh the memories
Gorgeous hotel...lovely meal out at a gorgeous mexican restaurant and then theatre - Phantom of the Opera
The following day we visited a Salvador Dali exhibition because I love Dali and we went to the British Museum where I was totally in awe of the Egypt section (I love ALL THINGS connected to ancient egypt).
Gary was wonderful...I knew I'd got my man LOL
Sirona
