Posts by Sirona

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QUESTION - 2007 Annual Meeting

by Eliabe in

question - why don't record im mp3 the 2007 annual meeting?

Ok - All Hallow's Eve is just half a fortnight away.....

by AK - Jeff in

do you believe in witches, goblins, ghosts?

is there anything out in the shadows to really fear?

is there a supernatural world out there?

Sirona

As a pagan, I'm going to be attending a Samhain ritual.

The real origins of halloween:

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What is the holy spirit? (according to JW)

by Scotty_was_taken in

hey guys.

just wondering what you guys believe the holy spirit is, according to you jw beliefs.

more questions may come depending on answers provided.. thank you for your time :).

Sirona

JWs fit the criteria of a "cult". They are not a mainstream religion. http://www.freeminds.org/psych/lifton.htm

There are many non-Christians who offer healing.

Sirona

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Which movies make you cry?

by averyniceguy in

jw
friends

even though i am very manly, i need a good cry!

List Reasons Why YOU Would NEVER Go Back To The "Truth"

by minimus in

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friends

i recently saw my jw brother and sil and listened to them talk about poor sister sick(o) who has been diagnosed with major mental problems.

she went to the doctor's and the doctor supposedly began to berate her out of the blue because she is a jehovah's witness.

now the family wants to have the doctor formally rebuked for his so called "discriminatory comments".

Sirona

They changed their bible, and when you ask them for justification of that, they don't have an answer! that is a fact.

Also, they fit all the criteria for the cult evaluation scale. They are a cult according to the experts!

They took away my spirituality and now I have it back, I would never give that up to a group of men in NY

Sirona

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Radical Apostasy v Liberal Apostasy

by diamondblue1974 in

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friends

in the wake of the 'dannygate' issue it made me think about the impact of apostasy and it various forms and on some level how it equates to the feminist movement and its development over the years.. initially, the radical feminist movement were and are the typical man hating, bra burning cross section who undoubtedly moved womens rights foward significantly and to some degree still do.

without the radical feminist movement, the likelihood of the liberal and more balanced feminist movements ever existing would have been uncertain if not improbable.

so indirectly the feminist movement owes a lot to those radicals who were out there burning bra's and linching men (i was joking about the last bit).

Sirona

Hang on Gary, you don't see this site as "liberal" do you? It isn't, IMHO

Sirona

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You'll never guess what mom's saying now (or maybe you will)

by reneeisorym in

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http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/144783/1.ashx <-- for background.

this was yesterday:.

well girl, i have done a lot of thinking lately.

Sirona

Hugs

Just try and say that things could be OK, she doesn't have to feel bad for just interacting with you " a bit "

If you try and aim for something, then I think that might lead to more. She obviously is asking for an answer. Give her an answer that will fit with JW'ism. Just so you can keep contact.

I hope you are ok.

Sirona

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What's Your View of Spiritism Now???

by minimus in

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friends

of course, as witnesses, everything was possibly "demonized".

if you got anything second hand, you could be in demon trouble.

if you saw a horror movie or read anything by stephen king, you were inviting the demons to you.

Sirona

I am pagan. Like Gary I use divination (not for fortune telling but for insight) and I have been known to have interaction with spirit beings.

There are spirit beings and nature spirits in existence, I have seen them.

When I left JWs I was afraid of all that stuff, but I am not afraid now. It has taken me a while, but I gradually overcame my fears. JWs instill fear and don't even put REAL faith in their god, Jehovah. As for me, I put actual faith in my gods and know that they will protect me.

Sirona

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feelings of guilt

by confused and lost in

as some of you are aware i am in the early stages of doubting the wts as the only channel of truth.however i am assailed by feelings of guilt.am i being seduced by the words of disgruntled witnesses or ex-witnesses or am i truly doubting !

!maybe some of you felt this way in the early stages of your "defection" from the wts.sometimes i feel as though i am rejecting god and his organization but other times i feel so strongly that the wts has misled me and is acting to control my "loyalty" by vieled threats of destruction at armageddon.you see prior to becoming a jw i had no religious affiliations.i knew nothing about the bible or god.so for 20 yrs i have only known watchtower teachings and un-learning 20yrs of this is making me so indesicive.am i doing the right thing or not ?

my only solace is prayer.i have prayed to god to show me in some way what the truth really is.i must admit that these prayers have been the most heartfelt i have ever said.have others felt this way and if so how did they deal with it ?i would truly appreciate some feedback.

Sirona

Hi Steve,

Let me tell you what happened with me.

I wrote to the society in NY. I included lots of my sincere questions and told them that I was having a crisis of faith - and it was true, I really was.

Their reaction was to send the local elders to see me. These elders told me they hadn't read my letter. I asked them how they could help me if they hadn't read it....and therefore couldn't answer my questions. They said, they didn't want to know my questions, they just wanted to readjust me. When I raised some of the questions, many of which involved the ways they've altered their bible (NWT) they would not answer but just got angry with me and said I had the devil's reasoning.

I eventually got a response from the Society but it just referred to their publications. The harder questions, they didn't even try to answer.

All in all, when I left I realised what real spirituality is. Real spirituality doesn't mean going to meetings and putting in a field service report. Real spirituality is within, in faith, and in working out your own conscience. They say we can 't work out our own standards, that is so untrue! I live my life very well now and I don't do drugs or anything which will hurt myself or others.

You will feel guilty. I used to feel so guilty for even asking questions. At the end of the day, if you choose to remain a JW, then fine, as long as you know it is the RIGHT THING FOR YOU.

Many blessings,

Sirona

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Radical Apostasy v Liberal Apostasy

by diamondblue1974 in

jw
friends

in the wake of the 'dannygate' issue it made me think about the impact of apostasy and it various forms and on some level how it equates to the feminist movement and its development over the years.. initially, the radical feminist movement were and are the typical man hating, bra burning cross section who undoubtedly moved womens rights foward significantly and to some degree still do.

without the radical feminist movement, the likelihood of the liberal and more balanced feminist movements ever existing would have been uncertain if not improbable.

so indirectly the feminist movement owes a lot to those radicals who were out there burning bra's and linching men (i was joking about the last bit).

Sirona

I'm really grateful to some so-called "radical" apostates because if it were not for them, we wouldn't have the resources on the net that we have now. Those people who were so bothered by the WTS that they set up websites and forums and who facilitated things like the documentaries and silentlambs. Bill Bowen was critisised heavily by the WTS but look at what he achieved!

The apostates who are more liberal are working behind the scenes, talking to the JWs they know (where possible) and making it clear that being ExJW can mean that a person is spiritual, but doesn't have to belong to a cult.

However, I think some liberal ExJWs use an excuse so that they do F88k all to help the cause. The "oh I don't want to look like I'm persecuting them" crap doesn't really wash with me. The JW cult will always think its persecuted anyway, so whilst I don't go out with a banner, if JWism is discussed I never mince my words or flower it up for the sake of the cult members.

Sirona