Posts by notsurewheretogo

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Updated Chronological Timeline of the Great Tribulation -- after the New Light from July Watchtower

by FusionTheism in

the july 15, 2015 study watchtower article entitled "your deliverance is getting near", along with the jw broadcasting video entitled "gerrit losch: fortified by "the prophetic word," and chapter 21 of the god's kingdom rules!

book presented a large amount of new light or clarified understanding of the events of the great tribulation.. here i am presenting it in chronological order -- this is the governing body's updated chronological order of events for the time right before the great tribulation through armageddon:.

the final sealing of the anointed occurs just prior to the outbreak of the tribulation.

notsurewheretogo

Thanks Listener

FusionTheism said point 6 was from the talk Gerrit gave but I actually meant a source for the change in preaching message during the GT and Gerrit discusses no such thing but he does talk about the "4 years" thing which is also part of point 6 hence the confusion.

I must have missed that WT you quote, I'll take a more in-depth look at it.

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Updated Chronological Timeline of the Great Tribulation -- after the New Light from July Watchtower

by FusionTheism in

the july 15, 2015 study watchtower article entitled "your deliverance is getting near", along with the jw broadcasting video entitled "gerrit losch: fortified by "the prophetic word," and chapter 21 of the god's kingdom rules!

book presented a large amount of new light or clarified understanding of the events of the great tribulation.. here i am presenting it in chronological order -- this is the governing body's updated chronological order of events for the time right before the great tribulation through armageddon:.

the final sealing of the anointed occurs just prior to the outbreak of the tribulation.

notsurewheretogo

Thanks for the references...although point 6 I've never ever seen written by the WT, now a GB may say it in a talk but in the past they say things but they are never written so they it can never bite them and make them look an ass, as Rutherfprd once said.

But the internet has captured what the GB said, what is the scriptural proof that the preaching work continues during the GT but that the message changes to one of "your doomed"?

EDIT..I just watched the 15 min video by Gerrit...excude me as it may have been my mind switching off but at what point did he say that the preaching work changes from one of Good News to one of judgement?

If you can tell me the time in the video that would be cool, I can't stomach to watch it again.

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Updated Chronological Timeline of the Great Tribulation -- after the New Light from July Watchtower

by FusionTheism in

the july 15, 2015 study watchtower article entitled "your deliverance is getting near", along with the jw broadcasting video entitled "gerrit losch: fortified by "the prophetic word," and chapter 21 of the god's kingdom rules!

book presented a large amount of new light or clarified understanding of the events of the great tribulation.. here i am presenting it in chronological order -- this is the governing body's updated chronological order of events for the time right before the great tribulation through armageddon:.

the final sealing of the anointed occurs just prior to the outbreak of the tribulation.

notsurewheretogo

In fact, I would like references for every point. Otherwise, this thread is someones opinion of what the WT teaches.

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Updated Chronological Timeline of the Great Tribulation -- after the New Light from July Watchtower

by FusionTheism in

the july 15, 2015 study watchtower article entitled "your deliverance is getting near", along with the jw broadcasting video entitled "gerrit losch: fortified by "the prophetic word," and chapter 21 of the god's kingdom rules!

book presented a large amount of new light or clarified understanding of the events of the great tribulation.. here i am presenting it in chronological order -- this is the governing body's updated chronological order of events for the time right before the great tribulation through armageddon:.

the final sealing of the anointed occurs just prior to the outbreak of the tribulation.

notsurewheretogo

What is your source for points 6 and 7, I've never seen anything in writing to confirm that although I have heard those points in dubs talking...

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Summer Convention at Twickenham now gone, UK

by jookbeard in

i believe this is the first year that the uk wont have a summer dc at this historical old rugby stadium (which is now one of the finest arenas in the uk) the costs to rent it must be astronomical these days, and it appears they are having multiple dates at the excel arena in london plus milton keynes is being used , many memories for me from a baby onwards making the yearly trip there, the dusty old stadium, the long walks to the car parks, working on the field security, getting burnt to a crisp or being poured on, binoculars !

food tickets, meeting at the lion gates checking the talent, and on the final day drinking the local pub dry the barny arms, end of an era!

notsurewheretogo

Well we normally went to Perth in Scotland but now go to Glasgow because it is cheaper but I too made the trek down to Twickenham a few times...it is indeed a lovely stadium.

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David Splane address bethelites

by rosesinbloom in

i did not write this piece.

i enjoyed the simple and understandable reasoning.

hope some of you enjoy it too.

notsurewheretogo

So...to believe these men were appointed by Christ you have to believe they were appointed by Christ in the first place to accept their non-scriptural viewpoint and that the viewpoint is correct.

Circular reasoning in plain sight right there...

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John 21:23 a new argument for JW's regarding false prophecy promoted being OK

by ILoveTTATT2 in

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i want as many minds put into this as possible.. there is a new argument among the extreme jw apologists, saying that even the disciples promoted mistakes.

they base themselves on john 21:23. keep in mind, i am not a believer but i want the answer from a believer's standpoint, please.. .

nwt:.

notsurewheretogo

You cannot compare the GB/FDS to the Apostles...they were not Jehoovers spokesperson...Jesus was.

The GB/FDS getting things wrong is akin to Jesus teaching wrong things...and he never changed his teachings.

The Apostles getting things wrong is akin to dubs, normal sheep, a normal JW getting it wrong as that is what the Apostles were, just sheep, when Jebus walked the earth*

* if he ever did (IMO)

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Disturbing hidden image in w15 04/15 page 9 (Not DF image)

by campaign of hate in

could someone do me a favor and post the picture on page 9 on the above mentioned watchtower.. i'll point it out, very surprised no one else has picked up on this creepy image..

notsurewheretogo

Sorry but I see nothing like what you mention in that pic...

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Does The Governing Body Have Enemies At Bethel?

by Brokeback Watchtower in

i would think that a lot of resentment is building up for these for these guys at bethel even though it may not be discussed openly for fear of being abused by the gb in some way.. any way looking at their personality and the extreme phoniness of rubber mouth/face lett, and am#3, and the chicken shit coward leosch who won't even show up in court when subpoena'd to defend his faith or policies, and i'm sure they have many more undesirable traits that repel people instead of attract and that has to work its toll on relationships they have at bethel.. and this shunning thing i'm sure must really erk some at god's house and while they may not be free to voice their discontent i feel it must be building because these guys are complete nincompoops when it come to reality and the only way they know how to give direction is with fear and guilt which i'm sure is rubbing a lot of people the wrong way.. and let not forget the issues that are raise when they stole all the congregations savings and the pledge drive for more cash, ban on higher education, lawsuit pay out and etc.... what is this doing to the relation ship they have with legal and accounting i see trouble brewing right thier in the spiritual pair of dice..

notsurewheretogo

I don't think they have "enemies" in Bethel, I just think some Bethelites spill info when they shouldn't so they receive credit like they are in the know...boosting their own egos.

If anyone in Bethel gets TTATT there is no way in hell they could live that fake life just to be a spy in the ranks, doing that can cause lots of mental issues.

The GB are full in on their beliefs and whilst not every Bethelite is uberzealous I don't believe there are many who are still there if any who are "mentally out".

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Reasons there is no God

by Lemonp in

ok, lets assume that god created everything as is, with no evolution involved.

this is what jw's teach based on a singular vague verse in genesis.

made according to their types.

notsurewheretogo

Just simplify it, Ochams Razor and all.

Is there a god? In human history there has been no contact and no evidence from any deity.

If there was a god he would have done something about our world or at least introduced himself and any plan he has.

The fact there has been no contact and the world is chaotic proves there is no god in simple terms.

Of course, I don't need to prove there is no god, the burden of proof lies with those who do believe.