Posts by notsurewheretogo

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Prince was on the board of directors for the WTS

by Barrold Bonds in

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friends

i was talking with a friend of mine who knows a few people in the home department at bethel.

apparently, prince was, as i noted in the title, on the board of directors.

he apparently was sort of a silent partner or advisor in the whole thing.

notsurewheretogo

What is it with this board and the recent spate of wind-up merchants?

This one is a cracker...

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Armageddon comes and you have 5 minutes with Jesus

by pleaseresearch in

so the big a comes, your third in line to be judged by jesus.

he wants to know why you left the organisation.

he also wants to know why jws remained with the org.

notsurewheretogo

JC...when you chose the WT back in 1919 to represent your father just what criteria did you use to choose them?

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Generation expiry date?

by pleaseresearch in

how long will it take for a jw to see that even the overlapping generation is wrong?.

the org waited and waited to see if their interpretation of it came true.

those alive in 1914 would still be alive obviously it didn't and jws have to believe in an overlapping generation.

notsurewheretogo

Sanderson is the lynchpin. He apparently started partaking while Franz was still alive, and he is only age 50 now.

That doesn't equate to the WT article that states all the helpers are of the other sheep and Sanderson was a helper then when that article came out...which was after 92 when Franz died...the article says ALL helpers were other sheep meaning none of the current GB qualify as being in the second group that overlapped with the first because all of the current GB were helpers.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/504950002/which-current-gb-members-part-overlapping-generation

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Review of Dr. Chryssides' new book on Jehovah's Witnesses

by Old Goat in

http://truthhistory.blogspot.com/2016/04/a-review.html.

the book costs 140.00, but i bought it.

i agree with dr. de vienne's review.

notsurewheretogo

Isn't it 144?

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Need way more sex in a relationship and still serve Jehovah

by lovestarved in

i have been disfellowshipped twice, and currently am- both times for sex.

i have a high need for sex in my relationship, and after 3 marriages, keep not finding that need in the other person.

so, i end up going out of the organization looking for it.

notsurewheretogo

This has to be another windup? There are a fair few going round at present...does this woman also need to believe that the earth is flat???

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Evolution is a Fact #34 - Hiccups and Tadpoles

by cofty in

hiccups are a weird phenomena.

they are a combination of two involuntary actions - firstly a rapid inhalation of breath followed 35 milliseconds later by the glottis at the back of the throat suddenly closing off our airway.. our normal breathing is controlled by a "central pattern generator" in a small region of the brain stem close to the boundary with the spinal cord.

a signal is sent along the vagus and phrenic nerves resulting in a rhythmic contraction of muscles in chest, diaphragm and throat.. these nerves branch off right at the top of the spinal cord and follow a convoluted path through the chest cavity.

notsurewheretogo

"
Truthexplorer13 hours agoCofty......surely you meant truth"explorer". I look at different perspectives. It just so happens that I stumbled across the flat earth topic on you tube and laughed at how ridiculous the whole thing was - initially. I wasn't being 'desperate' to prove creation. However the further I have looked into the flat earth theory, the further I am convinced that we are being deceived about the shape of the earth. NASA appears to be making a lot of lies which go on and on. But getting back to the point. There is much evidence to prove the earth is not a sphere. That the sun and moon are much closer to earth and that it is the sun that rotates around the earth. Also remember the biblical passage where God made the sun stand still in the sky/firmament so that Joshua could defeat his enemies. This all harmonises. If so, and was absolutely proven; then the genesis account is credible and correct."

Please tell me this is a wind up????

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Evolution is a Fact #34 - Hiccups and Tadpoles

by cofty in

hiccups are a weird phenomena.

they are a combination of two involuntary actions - firstly a rapid inhalation of breath followed 35 milliseconds later by the glottis at the back of the throat suddenly closing off our airway.. our normal breathing is controlled by a "central pattern generator" in a small region of the brain stem close to the boundary with the spinal cord.

a signal is sent along the vagus and phrenic nerves resulting in a rhythmic contraction of muscles in chest, diaphragm and throat.. these nerves branch off right at the top of the spinal cord and follow a convoluted path through the chest cavity.

notsurewheretogo

Never knew that, deeply fascinating.

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Divisions among ex jw activists

by Truthexplorer in

i just watched a youtube discussion between marc & cora and unwitness.

it was regarding their unhappiness over a few prominent individuals in the ex jw community, one individual in particular.

this individual who on the one hand produces excellent videos highlighting wt issues, yet has been known to peeve a lot of ex jw activists off.

notsurewheretogo

"
defender of truth5 minutes ago
I agree with punk.
Just appreciate/don't appreciate the articles or videos he does, and leave it at that. That's my view.
One look at this page can tell you that he has serious emotional issues.. I will leave it there, as I am not going to waste time critiquing or mocking such...again, words fail me.
http://jwsurvey.org/cedars-blog/my-response-to-the-haters-and-why-i-cant-always-shake-it-off
Basically, just take anything to do with internet-based flame wars between anyone with a pinch of salt. (ex-Jehovah's witnesses or otherwise, it makes no difference).
You'll likely never get the 100% facts of the matter from either side, so it is a waste of the one short and precious life that we have, to even attempt to do so.
Mind your own business.
Ignore any haters.
Otherwise, you too might end up like Cedars...
(My thought for the day )"

Fair enough...I agree...like/dislike the content not the presenter...we don't know personally the presenter...

BUT it is never as simple as that...

When more than a few people post comments on his site, Redddit or here with the motive of helping his videos to reach a wider audience or to improve them somehow and get shot down by Cedars consistently because he cannot take any criticism and that he is always right then HE makes it personal. HE is creating divides, HE is creating those against him because of his nature and that becomes part of whether you like his content.

I made a kind suggestion on Reddit that to improve his excellent Child Abuse video to reach a wider and more professional audience where in that he applies basic 101 Advertising in that presentation of the material simply makes a huge difference ie comb your hair and trim your beard.

I'm scruffy looking...but I'm not putting myself in the public's view with activism but HE is...yet when you try and help his goal by suggesting things he views it as a personal attack and has a go back.

I've had repeated examples of this with Cedars and other people have too...what this does is, even though you like the content you know based on past experience what kind of man he is and that sours your view of his content and therefore creates "camps".

Some of us are mature enough to keep the "person" and "content" separate but as I say it is not easy or simple for us all....

I still maintain Cedars site was at its optimum, for those who are still in and are nearing to coming out, when he was in covert mode before his DA.

Since then his content has changed dramatically to the point where a JW will say "bitterly mentally diseased apostate" and walk away from his site.

I get he is not producing content for that audience and he seems to want to target the audience who are already out and like to have it affirmed that the WT are not "the truth" but with that, adding the atheist point of view, is creating himself problems.

With a young family and depression that is never a good mix...

Cedars has been unfairly attacked by a few individuals but a lot of his "haters" are coming from how the man is himself...something he himself can control...

My two cents...I love his videos...do not like his attitude sometimes...keep them separate and all is well.

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Excellent Conversation At Literature Trolley

by cofty in

yesterday my wife and i enjoyed one of our regular days out at edinburgh - movie, lunch, walk, meal etc.. in the late afternoon while mrs cofty went shopping i had an hour at the excellent museum of scotland and arranged to meet up outside the national gallery on princes street.

on my way back i saw the jw trolley was at the usual spot on the royal mile.

there was an older man and a young woman standing well back trying hard to look inconspicuous.

notsurewheretogo

"t's important to be realistic. Nobody is ever going to declare right there on the spot that they have been wrong all along. My objective is to present something clear and memorable and then perhaps in the future when other things happen in their life they will give themselves permission to face up to doubts."

I applaud this objective...you have planted a seed...as I said in my previous comment you will never get them to think you are right there and then but that was not your objective.

I live not far away from Edinburgh, I'm up in the Highlands...next time I'm down your way I'll offer to buy you a coffee/pint...

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Excellent Conversation At Literature Trolley

by cofty in

yesterday my wife and i enjoyed one of our regular days out at edinburgh - movie, lunch, walk, meal etc.. in the late afternoon while mrs cofty went shopping i had an hour at the excellent museum of scotland and arranged to meet up outside the national gallery on princes street.

on my way back i saw the jw trolley was at the usual spot on the royal mile.

there was an older man and a young woman standing well back trying hard to look inconspicuous.

notsurewheretogo

I am quite surprised at Cofty's experience...hitting dubs with facts about evolution rarely works...heck any facts doesn't matter...as they are trained to accept what the GB says "as fact".