Posts by notsurewheretogo

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Message from Designer Stubble to the former JWR members

by Designer Stubble in

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message from designer stubble to the former jwr members.

first of all i am glad to see that many of you have found your way to this great forum, facilitated by simon.

i am sure that after the dust of the jwr shutdown has settled, you will find this to be a good new home.. i would like to apologize for the sudden closure of jwr.

notsurewheretogo

I much prefered JWR to any other exJW site...therefore I'm gutted that all the good threads I bookmarked are now lost...the whole point of a forum is to discuss things and refer to them when needed...I've lost a lot of good material.

To close the site with no option to at least copy/paste some of my bookmarked threads is very poor and reflects badly on whoever it was ran the site.

Not impressed.

Can't the owner hand over the reins to any who are willing to keep the site going or at least fund a static copy of it until we get what we want off it?

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JWR Alumni

by marlborobarbie in

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friends

hey y'all.

i just wanted to officially make my debut on https://www.jehovahs-witness.com and introduce myself.

i'm an old jwrer, and it looks like i'll be dropping in on here now for cult updates and friendly conversation.. a little about myself:.

notsurewheretogo

Welcome...I remember you from JWR....pic of you with a guitar?

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Jehovah's Witness Recovery is no more...

by TimeBandit in

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friends

i just tried to go to the site and there is a goodbye message.

i was a member there since 2010. i was really surprised.

i had just started posting there again after being away for a while.

notsurewheretogo

The thing is...I saved threads as bookmarks from this site and JWR as a catalog of great posts about topics...

It is a pity it had to be closed down...

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JW Recovery just closed

by Lanzing in

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i was surfing jw recovery .com, all of the sudden a screen came up that says .

jehovah's witness recovery.

after much consideration, we have decided to move on to other things, and bring this site to a close.

notsurewheretogo

JWR had less people on it and far fewer nutjobs...I really liked it...people like Fuque and DesignerStubble were decent posters...

Don Cameron, who wrote Captives to a Concept also used to post on there.

I'll miss JWR...but here has calmed down a lot over the last year with nutjobs...

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New DNA Study Confirms Noah

by notsurewheretogo in

http://www.icr.org/article/9325/.

amazing read...go on , have a laugh if you want to.. new dna study confirms noah.

by brian thomas, m.s.

notsurewheretogo

So creationists post evidence-free nonsense about Noah and genetics.
A number of people offer facts to show that it is incorrect.
You demand everybody has a right to their own opinion about what is true and we should all be nice and keep it "logical".
I insist that subjective opinions are irrelevant in establishing truth.
You respond with "fuck-yourself".
Is this your idea of a logical discussion?

This is exactly the issue...creationists cannot defend their point of view with facts and evidence...I've yet to see one in any responses to Cofty's posts...

I accept and so should they that creationism has nothing to do with facts or evidence but is a mere belief.

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1919 Doctrine no longer exists? (Today's Watchtower Study)

by FusionTheism in

quote from today's watchtower study article that's being studied at the halls (march 15, 2015, page 24):.

"understanding the illustration of the talents".

"when the master rewards the slaves.".

notsurewheretogo

The new light is that JC appointed the JW's in 1919 "over all the domestics" to give them spiritual food and a SECOND appointment occurs during the GT where JC appoints them over "all his belongings".

Based on no scripture of course!!

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Challenge to Creationists

by cofty in

in response to the 37 threads in my evolution is a fact series - see bottom of op for links - perry posted a link to an article "44 reasons why evolution isn't true".. i offered him a challenge on the thread and by pm.

predictably he is totally ignoring it, so i am offering the challenge to any evolution-denier who thinks they have evidence to support their position.. please present one specific piece of evidence for creationism.. my task will be to refute it with evidence within 24 hours.. then i will present one piece of evidence for evolution and your challenge will be the same.. all posts must be as succinct as reasonably possible.

entirely in your own words, without copy-paste, videos or links.. please post your interest to take part and we will set it up before the first actual post in the exchange.

notsurewheretogo

Is it astonishing or surprising that this thread is 5 pages long with Cofty's one simple, concise post offering a challenge to those who deny evolution and believe in creationism that...

a) The creationists spout stuff that has no bearing to the thread/OP

b) Offer zero evidence

It is the fact that they can't read simple points in the OP as to how the challenge works then how are they ever going to accept evolution as fact with all the evidence if the choose to ignore it?

I think Cofty's challenge should have a hidden agenda, to reveal if creationists can understand simple points...so far they have failed miserably...

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Confusing Opinions with Facts

by cofty in

in a discussion about the best flavour of ice cream everybody's opinion is equally valid.. in a discussion about the shape of the earth or the origin of species everybody's opinion is equally irrelevant.

only objective facts and evidence matter.. confusing these two categories is a common feature of conversations in this forum.

people deserve respect, errors do not..

notsurewheretogo

Abiogenesis aside, I struggle with the concept: "From fish to man." Cognitive dissonance in a big way. It is f*#%ing impossible.

I did too...then I read Richard Dawkins book "Climbing Mount Improbable"...it really opened my eyes and since then I've consumed many more books...

If you think "one minute fish"..."next minute man"...it sounds strange...but do research and the answers are there and are far more credible than you currently think.

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Evolution is a Fact #37 - Testicles

by cofty in

take a look at the back of your tv/entertainment centre.

a mass of power and signal cables connect the various pieces of equipment in very specific ways.

imagine you wanted to switch the locations of your satellite receiver and your dvd player.

notsurewheretogo

Yes, God did that for a reason that you will soon find out

???? Really? Is that "soon"? Which generation will that occur?

Out of interest, Vidqun, are there any species you view as ugly? Do these bring shame on their designer?

Indeed, leeches and mosquitos that feed on "sacred blood" are very "ugly" creatures are they not...

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Confusing Opinions with Facts

by cofty in

in a discussion about the best flavour of ice cream everybody's opinion is equally valid.. in a discussion about the shape of the earth or the origin of species everybody's opinion is equally irrelevant.

only objective facts and evidence matter.. confusing these two categories is a common feature of conversations in this forum.

people deserve respect, errors do not..

notsurewheretogo

I respect anyone's right to believe in anything (as long it it doesn't harm others) but equally I expect them to respect my right in that I think they are nuts for believing in something and dictating their life on something with zero evidence...