the other day i was doing some research about "1914" for a friend on my wt cd library (spanish) and i found it quite interesting that the number of times "1914" is mentioned in the watchtower magazine during the previous 3 decades has been dropping exponentially as follows.... 1980-1989: mentioned 854 times.
1990-1999: mentioned 492 times.
2000-2009: mentioned 222 times.
1914 has to be abandoned...in the future...if the GB want the cult to survive...that is why the February 2017 study edition of the WT lays the groundwork for any future massive doctrinal change by admitting the GB are not inspired or are not infallible.
So in the future they can and will have to change 1914 but in a way that will not affect dubs.
But not in 2016, not in 2017 or even the near future but at some point it does have to go.
there's a lot of criticism surrounding the jw's handling of chiild abuse within their ranks with a lot of it being well deserved.
but i'm interested to know how people on here think child abuse allegations should be handled.
there's a few scenarios below, the first couple are easy then it gets a bit more complex.
The single biggest thing is the difference in law v congregation.
No matter the severity of the offence the law will put on you on a Sex Offenders list and the public then know.
In the congregation no matter the severity if you are deemed unrepentant then NO-ONE in the congregation will know barring the family involved and the elders.
This could mean the offender making a private ministry arrangement with a family's child, without the elders knowing about it, and can easily re-offend.
It HAS to be policy that members of a congregation know because that IS what occurs if the law get involved.
i recently commented on a thread in relation to the 607 bc - 1914 ad calculation, listing problems with the logic and mathematics.
afterwards, i wondered what made ct russell choose 606 bc in the first place.
here is my research so far.. i had read somewhere a suggestion that 606 bc was a number ct russell got from nathan balbour who in turn got it from william miller of the millerites.
Surely the important part is he chose 606 BCE, realized there was no 0 year and instead of adjusting the final year of the prophecy they adjust the START of it ie adjusted something that was supposed to be set in stone, set by history etc?
It's a complete joke to do that. Cherry picking dates to match your own ideas.
Or in other words, it is a cult.
anybody have any ideas where they are going with the "new light" they have been pushing last week and this week?
for instance in this weeks study article one section reads:.
in years gone by, we believed that jehovah became displeased with his people because they did not have a zealous share in the preaching work during world war i. we concluded that for this reason, jehovah allowed babylon the great to take them captive for a short time.
People...they just make it up as they go along...they can say anything they want to mould the bible around their history...and change the meaning of their history if they want.
It's a cult...it needs to survive hence it will always change things to make themselves look better.
so, you left because of a bad example(s).. why all the whining?
nothing better to do with your time?.
you at least know far more about the bible than any church-goer?.
Hang on folks...popcorn is now warm...right, I'm ready...go...I love these threads.
EDIT....damn I was too late...he is gone.
but pretty much all of them are now dead.
and so are billions of others.
so, god doesn't desire any to be destroyed but desires all to attain to repentance?
Didn't they change it to "Millions now living MAY never die"...
And in that swoop it makes it all ok...
http://starconnectmedia.com/2017/01/19/russia-gets-go-ahead-to-liquidate-jehovahs-witnesses-organisation/.
Russia ban them...its Gog starting his attack folks...UN will get involved...its the start of the Great Tribulation...who is laughing now eh?
You all thought that bunker video was funny, not so funny now is it? Sorry, no room for you now...you are all bird food...
say what they like, but it's a definite withdrawal of pressure.
the commission is slow, needlessly protracted and inconsiderate of the extent to which ongoing damage is being carried out.. scrap it.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/watch-tower-statement-on-administrative-court-proceedings.
I think it is the case that the Charity Commission simply got the documents from the WTBTS that they required, nothing more.
my wife has been trying to convince me that the organization is hinting at the possibility of making some older sisters ministerial servants.
she is awake to a lot of the false doctrines, but is still clinging to the hope that the org may become more progressive in the future.
anyone else pick up on this?
It's in scripture that a woman cannot teach...so no I can't see it happening.
i have been doing research on the arc as some people on here have suggested.
i find it interesting on the case file analysis some of the findings.
it looks like queensland and new south wales had the biggest problems with this.
Yes, Notsurewheretogo. Just because you don't agree that watchtower is responsible for the actions of a third party they are defending them. Me, a number of lawyers and about a dozen District and Circuit Court judges all fall under that category of recognizing that one cannot control what another person does. That makes all of those judges apologists as well. Even the Conti appeals court ruled that, the actions that Kendrick did to Candace in his own time was not the fault of Watchtower, the only negligence was the assigning of Kendrick to work with Candance in an official activity of the congregation.
I've sat, as an elder, with a child in the congregation who was abused, I have seen first hand what it does to them...I have seen the unrepentant abuser get DF, then come back a year later with nothing mentioned to the police to "protect God's organisation".
The WT policies 100% fostered the environment where this abuse occurred and it is happening all over the world in congregations. It could be minimized hugely if the WT had proper policies on it.
If you were in my shoes and saw the victims as real people then you would not posting your crap like you are.
