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  Be loyal when a relative is disfellowshipped

  by UnshackleTheChains in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  well.....they showed that shunning video again.

  you know...the one where goldilocks gets disfellowshipped- and the parents look across the hall at her with disdain.....yeah that video.. i was interested to see what kind of answers would be given during the discussion after the video and some of the reactions.

  everyone sat there gormlessly staring at the video.

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  notsurewheretogo

  I mentioned this the other day...

  The Prodigal Son parable...the bad wicked son comes home...not because he is repentant or ashamed and wants to mend his ways...no...he is hungry...he comes home NOT to go back to pure worship or anything but rather he is sick of eating scraps.

  His father welcomes him home and throws a party...a lesson that is clear is that blood is thicker than water...blood ties are more important than religious ties...family is more important than religious beliefs.

  If the father in the Prodigal Son parable was to apply "WT Laws" he would have sent the son packing and not spoke to him when he come home hungry.

  Blood ties, family is more important than anything else...Jesus demonstrated that life is more precious that commandments (saving sheep on the sabbath).

  The shunning policy indirectly was a main factor in Russia banning them because it is extreme...if they want to take Russia to some Supreme Court to fight for freedom of worship then they the JW's need to change their policy and allow freedom OF religion by allowing those who want to leave not to get shunned by family members....can't have it both ways WT...karma...what goes around comes around...
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  Thinking about the end of the Watchtower

  by JeffT in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  first, a word about the watchtower’s financial position: nobody (outside the watchtower organization) knows.

  the wtbs is not required to disclose its finances, and doesn’t.

  we can speculate, but that is all we are doing.

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  notsurewheretogo

  Pointless speculation? The WT will not collapse and disappear in any of our lifetime's...
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  Will Watchtower target the inactive?

  by ToesUp in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  if watchtower has no reason to df ones.

  they have just become inactive.

  do you all think wt will begin a witch hunt (df'ing) for these inactive ones?

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  notsurewheretogo

  Elders are too busy to go after inactive ones, you would need a dedicated team to do it!

  Most elders cannot even do shepherding calls regularly...
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  How Many Here EVER Considered Going Back To Meetings?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  once i left ,i was done.

  in over 10 years i didn't return except for my mother's funeral.

  did you ever re enter the kh after you left?.

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  notsurewheretogo

  You can't...once you KNOW the TTATT how can you go back in terms of any form of worship?

  Family/friends would be the only reason...and the fasad that you are still one for that reasons but nothing else.
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  Breaking News - NK Missile Overflies Japan

  by cofty in

  1. social
  2. current

  story breaking on reuters here.... kim jong-un seems determined to start a war.

  nk is a national cult of personality.

  hating the rest of the world is the first tenet of faith..

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  notsurewheretogo

  The events of the last two days indicate to me no sanctions or diplomacy will work, or is even wanted.

  Military action, in whatever form is inevitable...be it strikes against the nuclear capabilities of NK or even an assassination attempt on Kim military action is where it is heading.

  Some are saying Kim is simply flexing his muscles so as to be taken more seriously around the diplomacy table...I'm not buying that.
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  "The Governing Body is neither inspired nor infallible. Therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction." -- Feb 2017 Watchtower

  by cognisonance in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  full stop.

  (paragraph 12 -- feburary 2017 watchtower -- who is leading god's people today?

  )so why then would any jw abide by harmful doctrines setup by the governing body (blood, shunning, the two-witness rule, etc)?

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  notsurewheretogo

  How do you reconcile these two statements:

  "The Governing Body is neither inspired nor infallible. Therefore, it can err in doctrinal matters or in organizational direction."

  "At that time, the lifesaving direction that we receive from Jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint. All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not."
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  A retraction and apology - I posted incorrect information.

  by doubtfull1799 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it was recently brought to my attention by the person who was with me on the carts at the time, that a comment i made six months ago about the cart work on this forum was incorrect.

  i apologise and in the interests of honesty and accuracy i feel it is only right to issue a public retraction.

  i have quoted the post in question below as i am not sure how to correct or delete the original.

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  notsurewheretogo

  This is a wind up isn't it?
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  JWs MUST Accept The Watchtower Teachings EVEN When They Are Wrong!

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  isn't it unbelievable that a jehovah's witness must accept whatever the organization says or they can be disfellowshipped??

  unless they tell you that their understanding has changed, you cannot believe anything unless they say it's ok. .

  many years ago i questioned them about their ridiculous view that whenever the word "heart" was mentioned, it was a literal blood filled organ.

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  notsurewheretogo

  Listen...obey...and be blessed...

  BUT...the GB can be wrong about any doctrine and any policy they teach...

  So God blesses people who obey men who teach wrong things???

  Doesn't add up to me...
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  What is the watchtower going to do when

  by pepperheart in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  what is the watchtower going to do when the money runs out ??

  ?.

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  notsurewheretogo

  They have made a billion dollars over the last few years...they are not going to run out of money in our lifetime's...
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  Relaxed rules toward oral sex?

  by Socrateswannabe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  these people won't state anything definitively, but here's an excerpt from the study article entitled "making christian marriage a success", in the august, 2016 watchtower.

  it does make me wonder.. although the bible does not provide specific rules about the kinds and limits of love play that might be associated with natural, sexual intimacy, it mentions displays of affection.

  (song of solomon 1:2; 2:6) christian marriage partners should treat each other with tenderness.

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  notsurewheretogo

  Aren't those versus quoted relating to a period of courtship, not marriage?

  I doubt it with reference sexual intimacy...