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  New Light

  by Lost in the fog in

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  am i the only one who can't reconcile new light with the light gets brighter?

  if it matters at all.

  i bring a candle into my house and light it.

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  But the light is not getting brighter if you follow the JW idea behind it...CT RUssell said that new light would come but would not extinguish old light...it would not replace it...hence adding two candles to a dark room makes it brighter than one as new light enhances the old light.

  But what we have in JW land is new light replacing old light...one candle is blown out and another lit...the room does not get brighter if you do this.

  Overlapping generations REPLACES the literal generation idea...the literal generation is "blown out" replaced by an overlapping one.

  Therefore, CT Russels idea of "new light" is wildly different to what JW's proclaim as new light today and that new idea fails to explain how things are getting "brighter".
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  Can someone tell me why Joan's ark and the flood not true and impossible?

  by Gokumonkey in

  1. watchtower
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  hey everyone.

  i have a question and i hope i'm not confusing this with something else i heard.

  while watching ex jw videos on youtube many of them talk about how noah's ark and the flood didn't happen and it's impossible.

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  http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html
  
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  WARWICK

  by Phoebe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as it's highly unlikely i'll ever go to warwick, i found lloyd evans latest video fascinating.

  i had no idea that the whole 'museum' (if you can call it that) was so big.

  notice the credit card machines by the entrance.

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  Good point...but...these people are watching his videos whilst "still in"? meaning they must already be on the fence so to speak otherwise there JW voice would say this is wrong to watch.

  In the past when Cedars was more neutral you COULD watch his videos WHILST being 100% in because I did...and it was a factor in me getting out.

  BUT he has drastically changed his website and where he is going with his activism...fair enough but it won't take someone who is in to then come out...I firmly believe if he stuck to being more neutral like Paul Grundy at jwfacts.com that you can then win over still-ins.

  But yeah he has to advertise himself if he wants to live off for sure...my point is over the 6 years I've been out it appears to me that his goal is himself first...but that is just my opinion.

  The real thing is whatever gets people out I'm all for...if people like his videos...great...I do not with some of them based on his previous dealings.
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  WARWICK

  by Phoebe in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  as it's highly unlikely i'll ever go to warwick, i found lloyd evans latest video fascinating.

  i had no idea that the whole 'museum' (if you can call it that) was so big.

  notice the credit card machines by the entrance.

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  Sadly for me all I can see is Cedars' ego in that video...I can't watch any more of his...its all about him...he wants to the biggest exjw person and wants to live off it rather than work.

  Nothing wrong with that but I see through his work and see the real motivation behind his work...I'm in no way convinced he is doing it just to help others see the folly of the WT...he's in it for himself.

  Many disagree with this, fair enough...but the opening sequence of this video is all about Cedar's...he then pushes the whole paetron thing thanking people handing over the cash so he can buy equipment and visit Warwick.

  I just don't like...my opinion and others disagree...he has made fine videos but something I have said in the past when his videos were more neutral when he was "faded" they were far better...now they appear from the point of view of an apostate since he DA'd himself...any still in JW's will not watch any video of his that are rebuttals of the JW broadcasts but they would have had he remained more neutral.

  But that is the direction he wants to go...I like some of his videos but he is not my cup of tea.
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  Why the move to Warwick?

  by optimisticskeptic in

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  i've seen a lot of posts around and about warwick and the goings on there but was curious as to people's theories on why the move to warwick?

  granted there's the obvious point about all of the money from the sale of properties in brooklyn but for as massive as warwick is, the purchase of an apartment complex there, multiple sites and buildings i would be surprised if they had much left from all of the profits.

  so beyond a financial incentive why move?

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  They sold $1 billion dollars of property.

  Warwick cost $200 million...

  Simple math...they pocketed $800 million.
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  If mathematics teacher made a mistake, would it mean mathematics itself is wrong!

  by venus in

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  many people point to the irrationality in the depiction of god by the religions and their scriptures, hence jump into the bottomless pit of atheism.

  in either camp, god is not a factor because religion is only a means that misrepresents god, hence religionists themselves are atheists (literally, those who live without god).

  it is like saying there exists no earth because you found out your friend who taught earth is flat is wrong; or it is like saying mathematics itself is wrong because you found out your mathematics teacher made a mistake.

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  The main scientific reason why there is no evidence for evolution

  Pick up a f'ing book and READ...the evidence is overwhelming and is accepted as fact...
  
  
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  If mathematics teacher made a mistake, would it mean mathematics itself is wrong!

  by venus in

  1. watchtower
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  many people point to the irrationality in the depiction of god by the religions and their scriptures, hence jump into the bottomless pit of atheism.

  in either camp, god is not a factor because religion is only a means that misrepresents god, hence religionists themselves are atheists (literally, those who live without god).

  it is like saying there exists no earth because you found out your friend who taught earth is flat is wrong; or it is like saying mathematics itself is wrong because you found out your mathematics teacher made a mistake.

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  6 pages...no proof...no facts...just waffle from venus...look within yourself to prove God?

  Jesus f'ing Christ...

  You are not "taking on" anyone because you offer nothing...zilch...zero...just like your imaginary god...
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  Adam and the Dinosaurs

  by The Real Edward Gentry in

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  here is a fascinating subject.

  according to the bible , one of adam's first assignments was to name all the animals including the sea creatures and dinosaurs of course.

  we don't know how long this took but, as all witnesses know, the time period is crucial in working out the timing of armageddon).

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  Come on...Adam stopped naming anything one Eve appeared...pretty sure that is where the JW rule on oral sex comes from...
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  BBC: Victims 'told not to report' Jehovah's Witness child abuse

  by Lostandfound in

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  2. child-abuse

  today on bbc news site http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-42025255 sorry about typo in heading big story on bbc news in uk.

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  Currently 8th in the most popular stories column...
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  Science corner

  by The Real Edward Gentry in

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  on other boards and new sites they are talking about contact with aliens in the next 20 years.

  i think that would be reckless and dangerous.

  how could you tell if it was a genuine space alien and not a demon?

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  You DO have your medication with you don't you? :)