i read john redwood’s excellent article on avoidjw.org but what was even more mind blowing for me was all the jw comments via disqus at the end of the article:.
http://avoidjw.org/en/news/problems-facing-jw-org/.
they are all the typical lashing out comments based on emotion rather than logical reasoning along with the watchtower apologists thrown in for good measure.. if any of you have a disqus account, then i’d encourage you to have your say.
Funnily enough there was that recent post on here detailing a YouTube channel of an Irish exJW who recently uploaded some good videos and I posted some comments and the amount of JW's on there arguing points against her uploaded video and arguing against my comments were surprising.
How did they see her videos or get to know her channel? It seems a lot "lurk"..
one of the most common "defences" of jw organization is that "the brothers" are imperfect yet still strive to follow god's word.
"sure, they make mistakes," so the argument goes, "but so did god's people in the past, including in bible times.
" the key point is their readiness to keep studying god's word and learning from their mistakes.".
The GB members are "just men" and are prone to imperfections like all of us.
They may swear in their head when they hit their toe on the end of their bed...they may do a double-take when a women enters the room with a low cut top (or in Tony's case a man wearing tight pants) etc etc BUT when they come together as the GB, and they pray, and supposedly the great Holy Spirit "directs" (not inspire remember) them to teachings, doctrines or policies then it CAN NEVER be wrong because their imperfections have nothing to do with the Holy Spirit directing them.
If things are wrong it MUST be the Holy Spirits fault and not the GB because they say the Spirit is directing them.
The fact that they get things wrong shows without a shadow of doubt that nothing supernatural or "god like", no divine intervention or any direction comes upon them at all.
They are just imperfect men teaching 8 million people what THEY think the bible means...they are wrong and they are imperfect...but being imperfect has NO bearing...or should not have IF they are "directed" by Holy Shite...er Spirit.
They recently admitted they are not infalliable or inspired thus there is no direction from any higher source....ergo it is a MANS religion.
Game over man...game over...I'm out.
i am a subscriber on youtube for kim and mikey, marc and cora, susan gaskin, stacy lopez, spike r, and several others.
i recently found a channel called anonni mowse and she is just fantastic.
she is so down to earth, very educated, and speaks her mind so clearly about her being in the cult.
Irish, no?
Yeah...she says so in her comments on that video.
i am a subscriber on youtube for kim and mikey, marc and cora, susan gaskin, stacy lopez, spike r, and several others.
i recently found a channel called anonni mowse and she is just fantastic.
she is so down to earth, very educated, and speaks her mind so clearly about her being in the cult.
I detect a British accent for sure...enjoyed that video...I like her reasoning and logic.
i have been meeting with member's of the kingdom hall, and i have attended a few times now on sundays.
i'd like to discuss experiences with this group since i'm new.
so far, i love it.
i think i read somewhere that if you have been inactive for ten years plus, the elders will not try to meet with you and corner you to get you back "in".
is that true?.
i just realized that mr. spiral and i haven't gone to meetings or reported time for over ten years.
I've been out 5 years and haven't had a visit in 3 years.
so i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.
i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.
i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.
Brilliant conclusion from that critique Driveby...
As I have already shown, "Darwinism" is a dusty relic of Victorian England. Modern Evolution is explained by the Modern Evolutionary Synthesis which includes Genetics, Mendelian Inheritance, modern methods of radiometric dating, the biogeographic distribution of species, vestiges and embryological recapitulation of evolutionary history, modern Anthropology, Genome Mapping, the discovery of hundreds of million of fossils with EVERY ONE in the historically correct rock strata, approximately a quarter of a million transitional fossils and hundreds of thousands of other pieces of evidence supporting the wonder of Evolution.
so i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.
i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.
i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.
so i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.
i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.
i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.
Had a chat with a dub recently...he asked if I was ever going back to the WT...I said no and summarized I no longer believe in a creator...
He then described a flower in among a dark forest with weeds and whilst everything dying around about it it still stands...great testimony to "a creator" to give us something so beautiful.
When I asked back what does it say about "the creator" of the leech, the mosquito, the parasites etc he said that they were never designed to be like that in the first instance but man has changed them and in the paradise they will revert.
So evolution really then I replied...silence...end of conversation.
Honestly, there is no point in trying to discuss evolution or facts pertaining to life on this planet with 99% of people who "believe" because facts to them never outweigh faith...ever.
so i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.
i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.
i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.
100% that is what I read on here Cofty...I'm sick of it...creationists just don't want the answers...
