Posts by notsurewheretogo

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Please explain!

by Freedom rocks in

hi please can someone explain this in laymans terms for me coz i be ever got it as a jw and still don't.

it doesn't make sense to me.

bible chronology indicates that god’s kingdom was established in heaven in 1914. this is shown by a prophecy recorded in chapter 4 of the bible book of daniel.. overview of the prophecy.

notsurewheretogo

The whole thing falls down with one simple fact proved beyond doubt...

The destruction of Jerusalem by Babylon was NOT in 607 BCE.

The very fact the WT used to teach it was 606 BCE until they realized that there was no zero year in between 1 BCE and 1 CE shows it is made up because they changed the start date of their prophecy, something set in stone in the past and documented by thousands of sources compared to changing the end date of their prophecy...something invisible.

We can all go into the crux of it but there is zero evidence anywhere that 607 BCE was the year Jerusalem was destroyed.

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WTBTS – assistance following an incident at bethel

by Tallon in

i haven’t posted for quite a while as i needed a break – although i have been lurking.. can anyone confirm if the wtbts give assistance to someone who has been involved in an incident whilst working at bethel and, as a result, must leave?.

the reason i’m asking is that, back in the 80’s, i knew a sister who was in bethel service.

she was assigned to the cleaning department.

notsurewheretogo

So she sleeps with just the covers....what? No pillow? :)

14

Feb 2018 jwbroadcasting train wreck!

by stuckinarut2 in

oh wow!.

the feb2018 broadcast is an absolute masterclass in cult manipulation, and a prime example of the high control nature of the society!.

if you haven't watched it, be prepared for some really disturbing stuff, especially as they address children, and guilt them into jw activity.

notsurewheretogo

Come one, Lloyd!
It really takes almost 2 HOURS to get your point across?? Really?

His videos are really long as of late...

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Update on Detroit-Area Murder Suicide - Front Page Article

by lepermessiah in

jw
friends

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2018/02/19/keego-harbor-jehovahs-witness-mom-triple-murder-suicide/351559002/.

this was on the front page of freep.com this morning - sadly there are some factual errors in this article that people will jump on (not allowed to go to college was in original article for instance - hopefully the reporter will correct it).

interesting reading the comments below the article - all kinds of opinions.

notsurewheretogo

For the loud and clear record, the urge to kill other people is an identifiable criterion of NO recognized mental health disorder.

What a ridiculous statement....well of course not the URGE to kill is not a criteria of mental health disorder but it is clear murder/manslaughter or suicide, when investigated, has a high percentage of mental health issues are involved.

Speaking from experience...

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Update on Detroit-Area Murder Suicide - Front Page Article

by lepermessiah in

jw
friends

https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2018/02/19/keego-harbor-jehovahs-witness-mom-triple-murder-suicide/351559002/.

this was on the front page of freep.com this morning - sadly there are some factual errors in this article that people will jump on (not allowed to go to college was in original article for instance - hopefully the reporter will correct it).

interesting reading the comments below the article - all kinds of opinions.

notsurewheretogo

I have to say....

Whilst being a shunned ex-JW certainly contributed to her mental state a person who kills all their family has severe issues beyond being shunned.

The media will pick up her friend and the women being an ex-JW but you can't blame everything on that...it is just a factor...otherwise loads of us ex-JW's would be doing this.

It is a heart breaking story...such a lovely family...all wiped out by a women with mental illness...certainly fueled by being shunned.

With the growth of mental illness shunning should be outlawed as against human rights.

Nothing is worth more than human life.

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When did Cook, the new GB member, start claiming to be anointed, and what are the implications?

by jwfacts in

kenneth cook was a "helper" in the writing department, which is apparently a role for those of the great crowd.

watchtower 15/10/15 p.3 states that helpers are of the great crowd.

"since 1992, the governing body has appointed experienced, mature christian elders to help its committees carry out their work.

notsurewheretogo

Having met most of the GB in the 1990's and 2000's and knew John Barr quite well I am convinced GB 1.0 were "Captives to a Concept" in that they believed 100% what they were doing was "the truth" hence why they kept in the background.

Conversely...whilst I am out and "see" GB 2.0 I am fairly convinced the majority of these are NOT like the GB of old and most, the majority, know that there are fundamental issues with their doctrines about "the end" and know there will be no end in their life time.

Jackson, Morris, Sanderson, Lett etc are in this bracket in my opinion.

The GB 2.0 are fundamentally different to the GB 1.0 of old and with that comes the belief that they are doing what is right...I think most on the GB 2.0 know some of it is bull.

So it will only be expected to see the same type of people appointed to the GB...either through copying the GB 2.0 or by being persuaded by the GB 2.0 that they qualify.

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The John Cedars Channel on YouTube taken down after posting a critique of leaked videos for Regional (District) Convention

by oppostate in

the wt is at it again it seems.

playing dirty as it can, trying to silence dissenters.. the john cedars channel on youtube has been taken down after the posting of a video critique of regional (district) convention leaked videos.. sounds like something putin would do in russia.

you know what they say, birds of a feather fly together--what a murder of crows all of'em!.

notsurewheretogo

That still gobsmacks me.
What kind of f**ktard tries to defend his authoritarian and legalistic regime to a community who've left said regime as a direct result of its authoritarianism and legalism and actually expect successful results?
Are they actually stoopid enough to think they're gonna change any minds here?
Or was that itself a stoopid question?

They are clearly scared of still-in JW's actually watching exjw content...

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An elder with only one testicle

by stillin in

i happen to be one of very few people who know of this condition that the man has.

he had an accident several years ago with some power equipment.

leviticus 21:20 commands that no man present the bread at the temple with damaged testicles... so?.

notsurewheretogo

Having "the snip" is "frowned upon" because if it becomes public knowledge that a brother has the snip, altering his organs Jehoover gave him in way that he cannot procreate then he is deemed not to be in good standing showing good "mental health" thus cannot be appointed in any fashion.

Of course when I was in I knew loads of elders who had the snip yet just never disclosed it publically.

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$5.5 Million to be transferred to World Wide Work from Assembly Hall fund

by Sour Grapes in

a letter was read tonight in our kingdom hall that the money that the circuits in the indianapolis area had in savings to build a new assembly hall will now be transferred to the www to build kingdom halls in lands where they are needed and a new assembly hall for us will not be built.. we had a beautiful assembly hall near downtown indy that was paid for.

it was sold a couple of years ago.

we were promised a new assembly hall to be built in southern ohio near the indiana border but they can kiss that goodbye now.

notsurewheretogo

The corporation is flush with $$$$. This new money grab is just normal operation procedure for Watchtower Real Estate and Internet Company.

It is this in a nutshell...whilst they are now being very careful with their money and "grabbing"what they can they are in no way going bust financially in our lifetimes.

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Have you ever gone back to a meeting out of curiosity?

by stuckinarut2 in

just wondering if anyone has gone back to a meeting out of curiosity?

(perhaps to an area far from your old khall where you know no one).

with all the changes from 2012 onwards (videos, tv screens, new meeting format, new songs etc) it would be an odd experience to be in attendance!.

notsurewheretogo

Why? 99% of us come out because we now KNOW it is not the "truth" so why ever go back????

Only those that never prove to themselves that it is NOT the truth would ever consider "going back"...even for "curiousity"....

For me...I will NEVER go back.