Posts by notsurewheretogo

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John Ceder used my satire about annual meeting for real

by Gorbatchov in

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sorry guys,.

the gorby satire fake report of the annual meeting with the coincidence about russia, is used for real in john cedars yt channel.. please concider it for well prepared satire.. and not much more.. g..

notsurewheretogo

Are you saying Cedars has used your info on a video and not double checked his sources?

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(How) Will The Slow and Subtle WT Internal Shift Affect Us?

by Solzhenitsyn in

as a "deep pimo" i can say that there is a confirmed re-branding.

the coordinators committee formed a focus group from service and teaching committees.

the results of that group roughly three+ years ago, with gb approval, trickled down to the other committees and eventually into what we have been seeing before our eyes in the org and local congs.. pick an organizational level and see the shift.

notsurewheretogo

I like your post...but...

I attended the Pioneer school in 1997 and the message was back then "Be a friend and just have a conversation about what is important to them. No literature required just bible or ~~tablet~~ in hand. Feel what they feel. Be a friend" very much as you say.

Nothing really has changed in that aspect.

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2018/19 new light

by Ray Frankz in

hi guys, long time without paying a visit to this site.

today i returned to check a 'gossip' that is running around in brazilian exjw forums.. they are stating that is almost certain they will make a big change in their doctrine maybe this year yet in the annual meeting.

they say people in warwick were commenting on this.

notsurewheretogo

I believe the GB 2.0 believes that they do not need to readjust anything because it is "so close".

I don't expect any new major ~~shite~~ light this year.

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Branch Co-ordinators letter re the Australian Royal Commission

by stuckinarut2 in

this letter was posted on the aust and nz facebook group this week.. it is self explanatory!

wow.... it seems to be their attempt at controlling the situation after the arc fallout.. .

notsurewheretogo

That is not a WT letter.

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why the watchtower is so short of money

by pepperheart in

the watchtower is so short of money because they have to pay for all the upkeep of so many branch offices around the world.because so many of the branch offices are in very poor countries and they are not balancing the budgets.

notsurewheretogo

It doesn't matter as to their cash situation...they are not going to disappear in our life time

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I called up Bethel a few minutes ago

by new boy in

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what the heck.. i couldn't believe it, norm brekkie and tom combs are still alive.. norm is so out of it he couldn't tell you what day of the week it was.. i talked to larry fisher he is gone mentally also.

he couldn't even remember when he went to bethel.. then i called up daryl christenson.

he wasn't so friendly.

notsurewheretogo

I need context...I have no idea who the OP is thus the post makes no sense.

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EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: Angus Stewart QC on Jehovah’s Witnesses and the Australian Child Abuse Royal Commission (by Lara Kaput and Louise Goode)

by jwleaks in

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angus stewart qc, senior counsel, has had a long and distinguished legal career, beginning with his passion for justice in south africa, fighting apartheid, then later working in the truth and reconciliation commission, and more recently acting as senior counsel in the case studies on jehovah's witnesses in the australian royal commission into institutional responses to child sexual abuse.

angus discusses, from his own personal point of view, and not representing the carc or the commissioners, what the journey was like, learning about the internal law and policy of watchtower society, how he became determined to stand for justice for all the victims and for the whole community of ex jehovah's witnesses and how he felt about the evidence being presented to him and the people presenting it.. interview by lara kaput and louise goode for jw community podcast.. https://jwcommunitypodcast.simplecast.fm/cf4d380d.

notsurewheretogo

I contacted him during the Aussie Commission and he had the decency to reply thanking me for my words of encouragement and info.

Top guy.

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How Would You Prove To A JW That They Are Wrong?

by minimus in

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what could you say to prove to a witness that they simply do not have the truth?.

notsurewheretogo

You can't...evidence doesn't work.

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Views on the golden ratio??

by Freedom rocks in

what are your views on the golden ratio or fibonacci sequence?

i know jws and some other groups use this as proof of gods existence.

i'm still looking into the debate but was wondering what others thought.

notsurewheretogo

How is it proof of God's existence?

There is a ratio that exists in all living things that makes sense...1.618xxxx etc. If it were any difference we would not be here...the fact we are is not proof of God but proof that for us to exist that ratio needs to be...nothing more.

The laws of mathematics is universal and encompasses all things. But doesn't mean there is a God...just means what is is and that is the reason why it exists.

All order in the universe is evidence of, is order in the universe, it only requires set physical properties that we refer to as laws, in order to function in an ordered way.

What believers need to find is evidence for the existence of a god, that cannot be interpreted in any way except by the existence of a god, then they need evidence that it's their god, not any of the many other gods from other faiths.

I'm afraid "I believe" doesn't cut the mustard when it comes to talking about evidence.

The golden ratio doesn't justify the existence of God. Two values are in the golden ratio if their ratio is equal to the sum of the values divided by the larger quantity. That doesn't justify God. Sure this shows up in nature, but it's been proposed that the growth pattern in some plants that produce Fibonacci sequences are the most effective growth patterns. The Fibonacci sequence is a very natural progression of numbers and their sums. It also does not show up everywhere so it could be coincidence. We don't know the exact reason why it shows up so often in nature, however, proposing that God is the reason is just another "god of the gaps" argument that is an illogical position to take. It's also been demonstrated to be wrong many times throughout history. Where people throw god in to explain phenomena they can't, science eventually does explain those gaps in our understanding.

Saying that "god did it" is to me so dull-minded and boring and just shows that one lacks a curious and inquisitive mind. Never stop asking questions. Jumping to conclusions leads to misconceptions and missed chances at discovery and learning.

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The transition from Faithful Slave to Governing Body

by john.prestor in

what i'm about to describe may have some bearing on the question of motives in the organization and the degree to which the governing body or the high-ranking men beneath them are self-aware.

a few months before the organization began teaching that the faithful slave meant the governing body and not the 144,000, so around early 2013, a circuit overseer visited one of the congregations where i was gathering data.

he introduced this teaching subtly in two of his three talks (the extra midweek meeting, the midweek meeting, and the weekend meeting).

notsurewheretogo

At the end of the day they will have to change it soon that the FDS class are the GB after a certain period of time has passed...no way in 2030 odd can there be 18,000 FDS class members.

They have to address it...that and 1914...time destroys all cult beliefs that have time prophecies.