His videos were instrumental in helping my wife wake up from the cult.
Me too personally.
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Poor Llyod
by notsurewheretogo inlook...i've had my beef with lloyd aka cedars and some of the stuff he says or does but equally i respect what he is trying to do and what he has achieved in terms of waking people up.. he intimated he had mental health issues years ago but his video today is brutal...i see pain in his eyes and he is suffering.
his family come first and the man needs to heal.. yes he has issues that many on here see but its not the man that is important but his work.. but the man needs time to heal mentally and i wish he does so.
he deserves that despite the feelings and things that have happened in the past with the exjw community.. he has done so much for the exjw community in general that i hope all give him a little clack and he returns.. if any of us did what he did we may be in the same boat but none of us do...see past the man and see his work but equally the man is suffering and it is pretty sad...i hope he gets better soon.
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Poor Llyod
by notsurewheretogo inlook...i've had my beef with lloyd aka cedars and some of the stuff he says or does but equally i respect what he is trying to do and what he has achieved in terms of waking people up.. he intimated he had mental health issues years ago but his video today is brutal...i see pain in his eyes and he is suffering.
his family come first and the man needs to heal.. yes he has issues that many on here see but its not the man that is important but his work.. but the man needs time to heal mentally and i wish he does so.
he deserves that despite the feelings and things that have happened in the past with the exjw community.. he has done so much for the exjw community in general that i hope all give him a little clack and he returns.. if any of us did what he did we may be in the same boat but none of us do...see past the man and see his work but equally the man is suffering and it is pretty sad...i hope he gets better soon.
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Look...I've had my beef with Lloyd aka Cedars and some of the stuff he says or does but equally I respect what he is trying to do and what he has achieved in terms of waking people up.
He intimated he had mental health issues years ago but his video today is brutal...I see pain in his eyes and he is suffering. His family come first and the man needs to heal.
Yes he has issues that many on here see but its not the man that is important but his work.
But the man needs time to heal mentally and I wish he does so. He deserves that despite the feelings and things that have happened in the past with the EXJW community.
He has done so much for the EXJW community in general that I hope all give him a little clack and he returns.
If any of us did what he did we may be in the same boat but none of us do...see past the man and see his work but equally the man is suffering and it is pretty sad...I hope he gets better soon.
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2021 Service Report
by alanv ini have just realized that the 2021 service report figures have in fact been published.
but they are written in such a way its harder to compare.
so on the jw website, there is a tab called 'about us'.
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If they kept everyone in then the 171,000 baptised would be a 2% rise...thus 0.7% rise means they lost 112,000 people.
How many of those baptised are not children? That, I presume, will be the majority of the number thus they are self-sustaining at the moment but not many are coming in from outside.
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The Watchtower—Study Edition | February 2022 Trust in Jehovah ...We really meant ''the Governing Body''
by RULES & REGULATIONS inthe watchtower—study edition | february 2022. study article 6. do you trust in jehovah’s way of doing things?.
15 as the end of this system of things draws near, we need to trust in jehovah’s way of doing things as never before.
during the great tribulation, we may receive instructions that seem strange, impractical, or illogical.
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2017 - WT: The GB is neither inspired or infallible and can err in doctrine and organisational matters.
2021 - WT: You must be obedient to the GB, who can err in organisational direction, when they give out organisational direction that appears illogical, strange or impracticable.
So how does one know if said direction that is strange, impractical and illogical is correct if they can be wrong?
The 2013 WT (obey even if not sound from a human standpoint) and the 2021 WT (obey even if illogical, impracticable and strange) cannot be married up with the 2017 WT that advised they can be wrong.
You cannot solve this equation.
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Funny JW website
by RolRod inanyone ever seen this website?
it's clone of jw.org only from xjw point of view.
jehovah’s witnesses—official counter website: accessjw.org.
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A lot of work has gone into that! Kudos!
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The Watchtower—Study Edition | December 2021
by RULES & REGULATIONS instudy article 50. listen to the voice of the fine shepherd.
9 consider an experience that illustrates how jehovah can care for our material needs.
a couple in full-time service drove over an hour in their old car to pick up some sisters living at a refugee center and take them to a christian meeting.
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The Great Jehoover can supply shopping bags or KH materials miraculously yet sisters who get raped or killed are seemingly not on his radar.
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When it comes to "we must be ready to obey whether....it
by nowwhat? ini believe the the organization will tell it's members to sign over their mortgages and savings to the organization.
because of the impending fall of the financial institutions and the organization is the only place where it will be safe.
this has to be the only scenario possible because obviously they won't do a jonestown and where could 8 million flee to?
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I think the recent encouragement in the latest WT to be obedient whether it appears strange, impractical or illogical has nothing to do with KH or money.
I think they, the GB 2.0, believe the end is very close and there will need to be some sort of physical activity required like fleeing.
My PIMI wife is going on about the "go-bag" that she needs. I can imagine the scene where tensions arise between the UK and Russia to the point there is conflict and all families will be told to flee as the GT is here etc.
I think the GB are holding off doctrinal changes that are obviously required before they lose anymore people at a faster rate like the 144,000...607 BCE, 1914 etc but they are holding off due to the GT being so close in their minds.
But the reality is the GT will not come and they will have to change doctrines and might that be the illogical or strange or impractical things they mention?
Like cut yourself off from the internet?
Whilst they are money orientated I don't envisage this batshit crazy new WT stuff to be a driver to sell KH's.
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A "killer" question for Jehovah's Witnesses
by Terry inhere is a 'killer' question for jw's.
which description best describes how you see yourself and how you feel?which would you choose?
are you: 1. a christian 2. a jehovah's witness here's the scenario.
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This question does jack shit to any JW....jesus h christ....they don't think for themselves Terry....come on you are better than this.
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If you think Watchtower is disappearing any time soon…
by Reservations inyou are sadly mistaken.. i hear people say it on here all the time, and dare i say his name *cough* lloyd evans *cough* has said it a number of times, that watchtower is running scared and watchtower is in decline….. we need to put in perspective the decrease from the 2020 report.
if we calculate a yearly -0.6 decrease over a 10 year period from 2020 figures it leaves us the grand total number of witnesses of:.
by 2030: - 7,933,479. by 2040: - 7,471,357. by 2050: - 7,036,154. i agree that this is a significant decrease, but let’s not kid ourselves, the wt organisation will still be alive and well even with an annual 0.6% loss.
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Time has a massive effect on cults. As we move on from 1914 they have some serious doctrinal issues to address.
It is not going to be ended any time soon as long as they do not change any major doctrines but they HAVE to change the generation, 1914, 1919, anointed doctrines at some point otherwise they just look stupid.
The fact they have attached themselves to key dates and old doctrines poses big issues hence why I think the mantra of obeying no matter what is said is key to retaining JW's given they have to change major doctrines soon to survive.
If they hit 2040 still saying 1914 etc it becomes laughable to join them. Thus that 0.6% decline may rapidly increase.
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If God exists, what would be a good reason why he never communicates or helps his creation by intervention?
by pistolpete inyou have probably heard all kinds of excuses why god doesn’t communicates with his creation or why he doesn’t intervene.. some examples.. no one can see god because he is a spirit.. but we can hear god---yet he chooses not to talk to humanity.. god only communicates with certain people.
moses, samuel, abraham, etc.
but there are many people today who also claim that god spoke to them yet we ignore them but believe god spoke to people who lived thousands of years ago and we can’t really verify if that was so.
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But the comparison to the feeling of pain and how each of us feel it compared to an experience of god seems a bit tenuous?
We all feel pain...to different degrees for sure but we know pain exists because all feel it and it can now be measured to great accuracy.An "experience" equating to god communicating seems wildly different and hugely subject between the two? We can prove pain via science and evidence now but there is still zero proof, tangible, of a god.
It's all related to opinion, perception etc and that in itself lends weight to my point in circumstantial evidence that proves beyond reasonable doubt that god does not exist given we have zero evidence and the rather fuzzy, non repeatable, tenuous links?
I do love your points on conscious though...this interests me in with my late sister and my inability to comprehend her consciousness is gone. Keep posting and making these points.