Posts by notsurewheretogo

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Scholar and Fisherman

by Jorden in

scholar and fisherman, i started this thread because i didn't want to highjack the one in regard to 588/568.. i just wanted to ask if you were both current active jw's that believe the jw's beliefs?.

do y'all believe the gb are the f&ds?

if the answers are no, then why do y'all defend so passionately the date 607?

notsurewheretogo

Fisherman & Scholar.

Back in 2013, May 15th WT the society said:

Then in February 2017 they also said this:

How do you reconcile these two points as believing JW's? My questions are:

Q1) You are told to follow everything the GB says yet as the Feb 2017 WT says they can be wrong, thoughts?

Q2) The direction mentioned in the May 2013 WT is one of these things they could get wrong?

Q3) How can one follow obediently humans like the GB when they can be wrong?

Q4) How can they exact obedience when they can be wrong?

Q5) How does God view it when they are wrong? (I'll cite organ transplants as a doctrine that killed JW's but was wrong)

Q6) If one says these things are from Jehovah and they are wrong is that not very bad in God's eyes?

Q7) Has the GB ever said this, in that this is what God says then changed it?

I could go on and on.

I mean you believe and stand by 607 BCE despite the mass amount of evidence to the contrary but you are not going to change your mind on that subject but can you then answer the above questions?

How does any believing JW believe the GB are appointed by God to lead and be his representative when they admit and have shown they are clearly wrong in teachings, doctrine and policies YET still demand that you do everything they say no matter how crazy in the future it may seem.

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Evolution is a Fact #27 - Monkeys, Typewriters, Shakespeare, 747s etc.

by cofty in

most creationist arguments can be summarised as "complexity, complexity, complexity - therefore god".

we have all heard the illustrations about the odds of (insert favourite example) evolving, being less than 10,000 monkeys typing macbeth by pure chance.

evolution is not like that.

notsurewheretogo

“When Shall”
27x27x27x27 (“When”)
x27 (space between words)
x27x27x27x27x27 “shall”)
The odds then go to:
2.0 x 10 to the 14th power!
Even dividing by 10,000 Monkeys
and you still end up with an average of
2.0 x 10 to the 10th power of attempts per each monkey required. Which means that it’s impossible for 10,000 Monkeys to generate even a brief “When shall” by random processes.

Did you miss the point entirely that when a monkey gets "When" then all other monkeys are given paper with "When" on it?

Learn to read.

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The Suicide of Jason R: a rational battlecry

by inkling in

ok, here is a short introduction:.

worf has posted an email sent to him by someone who claims: to have testified.

in court in a case involving the illegal digging up of the body of a young bethelite .

notsurewheretogo

cum down hard on homosexuality

I think a few in Bethel have done that

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

notsurewheretogo

I'm reading it with my jaw open...it's astonishing how deluded this guy is.

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Breaking News: Anthony Morris III no longer serving on the Governing Body

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

this has been announced on the jw's official website, in the "jw news" section.

this is not a joke.

anthony moron da turd is out as a gluttonous body member!

notsurewheretogo

You may not remember, but I DO.

Right but slim has proved his points via quotes....you haven't.
You are just saying stuff. Slim, as always, tries to prove his posts with evidence.

You are simply not doing the same and losing credibility.

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England: Failure to Report Child Abuse to be Illegal

by notsurewheretogo in

people who work with children in england will be legally required to report child sexual abuse or face prosecution under government plans.. .

the move - which is subject to a consultation - was recommended last year by the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse (iicsa).. .

the home secretary told the bbc she wanted to correct one of the "biggest national scandals".. .

notsurewheretogo

Who disliked this post? Why?

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England: Failure to Report Child Abuse to be Illegal

by notsurewheretogo in

people who work with children in england will be legally required to report child sexual abuse or face prosecution under government plans.. .

the move - which is subject to a consultation - was recommended last year by the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse (iicsa).. .

the home secretary told the bbc she wanted to correct one of the "biggest national scandals".. .

notsurewheretogo

About time.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-65152581

People who work with children in England will be legally required to report child sexual abuse or face prosecution under government plans.

The move - which is subject to a consultation - was recommended last year by the Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse (IICSA).

The home secretary told the BBC she wanted to correct one of the "biggest national scandals".

Suella Braverman is expected to set out more details in the coming days.

In its final report last October, the IICSA called the scale of abuse in England and Wales "horrific and deeply disturbing".

Around 7,000 victims of abuse provided testimonies to the seven-year inquiry, which was set up in the wake of the Jimmy Savile scandal.

It recommended prosecutions for anyone working with children who failed to report indications of sexual abuse.

'Turned a blind eye'

Ms Braverman told the BBC's Sunday with Laura Kuenssberg show that in towns around the country, "vulnerable white girls living in troubled circumstances have been abused, drugged, raped, and exploited" by networks of gangs of rapists, which she said were "overwhelmingly" made up of British-Pakistani males.

"Some councillors, senior politicians, in Labour-run areas over a period of years absolutely failed to take action because of cultural sensitivities, not wanting to come across as racist, not wanting to call out people along ethnic lines.

"The authorities aware of these problems have turned a blind eye and roundly failed to take the right action," she said.

She said she was just being honest - but Labour's Tracy Brabin, mayor of West Yorkshire, called it a "dog whistle".

Labour's shadow levelling-up secretary Lisa Nandy said that in the cases of Rochdale and Rotherham, "the reports were clear there were politicians and officers who didn't report sometimes for fear of political correctness".

But she said: "The home secretary is an absolute joke to talk about turning a wilful blind eye, near complicit silence, and lack of action. She's basically describing herself."

Ms Nandy said the number of convictions for child sexual exploitation had halved in the last four years. "People are waiting nearly two years on average just to get to court... there's no excuse for any more delays and inaction," she said.

She said she had been calling for mandatory reporting for 20 years, and further criticised the government for consulting on its plans before adopting them. Ms Braverman "needs to come forward with actual measures to keep children safe in this country", Ms Nandy said.

In an article written for the Mail on Sunday, Ms Braverman said she had "committed to introduce mandatory reporting across the whole of England".

She referred to widespread abuse which plagued Rotherham for years - and wrote that crimes like abuse "create such a burning sense of injustice among the public" if they went unpunished.

The "overwhelming majority" of safeguarding professionals, such as teachers and social workers, saw it as their "duty" to report signs of such offences, Ms Braverman wrote.

But she said ministers had to take a tougher approach, to make sure that those who failed in their responsibilities faced the "full force of the law".

She promised Prime Minister Rishi Sunak would set out further measures on Monday.

The NSPCC said the plan to legally compel people to report abuse was a "step in the right direction", but that more work was needed in order to improve the understanding of who was at risk.

It also said there needed to be an "overhaul" of support for those already suffering the consequences of abuse.

The shadow home secretary Yvette Cooper said Labour had called for such a policy for a decade and that ministers needed to set a timetable for when it would be implemented.

The Liberal Democrats welcomed the move, but said the government must now clear the record backlog of cases in courts.

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Scotland's New First Minister is Racist

by cofty in

here he is in holyrood ranting about how scotland is too white.

he is the 'continuity candidate' who will carry on sturgeon's woke agenda.

this does not represent the people of scotland.

notsurewheretogo

Independence was always a pipe dream given the economic facts do not support it.

The fact the SNP have finally imploded means hopefully Scotland can concentrate on actually improving core services.

The SNP have failed the Scottish people far worse than the tories have made a mess of the UK.

They deserve to be dissolved.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

notsurewheretogo

Lol my boss.

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It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars

by Newly Enlightened in

original reddit post (removed).

notsurewheretogo

You say he’s finished but I don’t see that at all. His Patreon is still at a level that can sustain him and one or two employees for the foreseeable future.
You say he can never cover abuse stories again but I don’t see that either. He is just biding his time and building back slowly. I am sure he plans to get O’Donnell and others back on board at some point. He went to the meeting in the UK parliament about the commission on abuse and made a video about it. He has no intention of leaving it alone.
The major problem for LE as I see it is that he now hates the subject of JWs and he is lazy. But he wants the money, so what can he do? Gradually rebuild his band of volunteers to do the work for him and keep as much of the Patreon money for himself as possible. He has an ongoing internal battle between greed and boredom, which may ultimately be determined by whether or not he is able to co-opt others to do the work for him.
People’s interest in the topic comes and goes and that’s okay, but the drama is far from over.

I think he is always going to have members of the exJW community have a go at him, rightly so, for the whole sex scandal thing and thus his content will never grow. I forsee exactly as you say, boredom and he will move on.

His attitude to what he did is now captured permanently on the internet and therefore content creation will become impossible to sustain him long term.

I think the "drama" is over because nothing will happen bar he will be tarnished with that brush of using sex workers whilst advocating against CSA and that's it.