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  Could the Independent Inquiry in England and Wales expose jw.org's child abuse failures? And how can we help?

  by defender of truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  with all the talk about the org's policies and failures regarding child sexual abuse being publically exposed in australia, i thought that it may be a good time to highlight this... i apologise if this has already been discussed, but on the 9th of july the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse in england and wales was opened.

  here is some information regarding it's aims.. "about the inquiry.

  the inquiry offers an unprecedented opportunity to examine the extent to which institutions and organisations in england and wales have taken seriously their responsibility to protect children.. the inquiry will investigate a wide range of institutions including:.

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  notsurewheretogo

  Just got my response from them, they say they logged my suggestion.
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  Another annointed disfelowshipped for showing love

  by poopie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok this is story1.annointed bro moves into a house and rents room from a lady.

  2.he is currently serving as elder.3.there happens to be a disfellowsipped brother also living in house.4.

  the annointed elder decides to help him to return to jehovah.5 the other elders find out and decide to remove him as elder because he is living and helping a df person and the annointed bro cannot move out because he does not have enough money.

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  Ditto. On more than one occasion too. The last one was a complete pig. He used to march around with his nose in the air.

  I, much happily, found some dirt on our COBE and I confronted him with it...a month later he moved congregations. I made sure the dirt went with him...he was not reappointed an elder...although I understand he is now...sadly.
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  Another annointed disfelowshipped for showing love

  by poopie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok this is story1.annointed bro moves into a house and rents room from a lady.

  2.he is currently serving as elder.3.there happens to be a disfellowsipped brother also living in house.4.

  the annointed elder decides to help him to return to jehovah.5 the other elders find out and decide to remove him as elder because he is living and helping a df person and the annointed bro cannot move out because he does not have enough money.

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  notsurewheretogo

  Amazing. Elders are allowed to speak to DF'd ones.

  Yes but only to ask them back to return to meetings so they can prove their repentance and any study must be approved by the body of elders that the elder does this with the DF dub.

  This anointed elder I presume did not do that, he was simply studying with him, a form of spiritual association.

  But you are right, the bigger bullies always win, I was part of a body with a COBE that was so full of himself it was unbelievable. I challenged him on many an occasion...
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  What woke you up?

  by Israel Ricky Gonzales in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  in march of 2014, i was a very active jw, a ministerial servant, gave a public talk, was an attendant for the memorial, and one of 4 cleaning captains for an international convention of 40,000+ attendees.

  so what woke me up?

  an innocent comment from a co-worker about the candice conti court case rang a bell that could not be unrung.

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  notsurewheretogo

  Destruction of Jerusalem being 586/587 rather than 607...destroys everything as 1914 is the foundation for modern day dubs...once you prove to yourself it was not in 607 then the whole house of cards comes tumbling down.

  If those 7 guys in the GB are not being directed by any god then it's all just their interpretation and it is amazing how much of the JW doctrine is based on having trust that they are chosen.
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  Another annointed disfelowshipped for showing love

  by poopie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok this is story1.annointed bro moves into a house and rents room from a lady.

  2.he is currently serving as elder.3.there happens to be a disfellowsipped brother also living in house.4.

  the annointed elder decides to help him to return to jehovah.5 the other elders find out and decide to remove him as elder because he is living and helping a df person and the annointed bro cannot move out because he does not have enough money.

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  notsurewheretogo

  Forgot to add at the bottom thus just associating with a DF person will not qualify being disfellowhsipped yourself unless you speak out about the disfellowshipping or you engage in spiritual associating with them...which the OP that mentions the anointed brother was in fact actually doing.
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  Another annointed disfelowshipped for showing love

  by poopie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok this is story1.annointed bro moves into a house and rents room from a lady.

  2.he is currently serving as elder.3.there happens to be a disfellowsipped brother also living in house.4.

  the annointed elder decides to help him to return to jehovah.5 the other elders find out and decide to remove him as elder because he is living and helping a df person and the annointed bro cannot move out because he does not have enough money.

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  notsurewheretogo

  Partly true.
  First, like you said, you get privileges removed as a warning... if it keeps happening, then you get private reproof... then public reproof... then you're disfellowshipped.
  You were an elder, you should know this.

  Agree it is partly true, only because there is elder discretion here.

  You could get disfellowshipped for it if the elders pursue the only charge that relates to this which would be "Brazen Conduct" and only if they were either critical of the disfellowshipping or were having spiritual association in the form of worship.

  In my experience I counselled many dubs on associating with DF ones, some repeatedly over many years but we never disfellowshipped them for it.

  The elders hand book states on page 116 paragraph 6:

  If members of the congregation are known to have undue association with disfellowshipped or disassociated relatives who are not in the household elders should counsel and reason with those members of the congregation from the Scriptures.

  Review with them information from the "God's Love book, pages 207-208; The Watchtower of April 151 1988, pages 26-30; or the article "Display Christian Loyalty When a Relative Is Disfellowshipped in the August 2002 Our Kingdom Ministry.

  If it is clear that a Christian is violating the spirit of the disfellowshipping decree in this regard and does not respond to counsel, it may be that he would not qualify for congregation privileges, which require one to be exemplary.

  He would not be dealt with judically unless there is persistent spiritual association or he openly criticizes the disfellowshipping decision.
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  Another annointed disfelowshipped for showing love

  by poopie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  ok this is story1.annointed bro moves into a house and rents room from a lady.

  2.he is currently serving as elder.3.there happens to be a disfellowsipped brother also living in house.4.

  the annointed elder decides to help him to return to jehovah.5 the other elders find out and decide to remove him as elder because he is living and helping a df person and the annointed bro cannot move out because he does not have enough money.

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  notsurewheretogo

  You can't get DF for associating with another DF person, just any privileges you have are removed.
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  News Which UK J.W.'s Won't Get in their Kigdom Ministry!

  by The Searcher in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  a source tells me the following: .

  for shropshire uk by the name of anthony manning has been removed and judicially reproved.

  portishead congregation in north somerset is being merged or disbanded on sept 1st 2015 due to "aging elders, poor attendance, decrepit kingdom hall and landslip" - of course the suspicion is wt just wants to sell the hall off.

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  Anyone know why the CO was reproved?
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  Brother who works on JW Broadcasting gave a 20 minute talk, said something big is coming next month.

  by wifibandit in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  via /r/exjw.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lc7vhu8l88k.

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  notsurewheretogo

  Just got a Google Alert that says Jehovah Witness songs will be on iTunes, is THAT the big announcement?
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  Could the Independent Inquiry in England and Wales expose jw.org's child abuse failures? And how can we help?

  by defender of truth in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  with all the talk about the org's policies and failures regarding child sexual abuse being publically exposed in australia, i thought that it may be a good time to highlight this... i apologise if this has already been discussed, but on the 9th of july the independent inquiry into child sexual abuse in england and wales was opened.

  here is some information regarding it's aims.. "about the inquiry.

  the inquiry offers an unprecedented opportunity to examine the extent to which institutions and organisations in england and wales have taken seriously their responsibility to protect children.. the inquiry will investigate a wide range of institutions including:.

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  notsurewheretogo

  BTTT.. Has anybody else sent an email asking the Inquiry to investigate the Jehovah's Witnesses organisation?

  I did, a few days ago...no answer.