the trial has begun.
the crowd on the street (see photo) is now inside and the gallery is packed.. yesterday jehovah's witnesses presented a written legal argument - "objections to the administrative claim of the ministry of justice of the russian federation" - to the supreme court of russia which, in paragraph 254, argued that if the ministry for justice liquidates and bans the activities of jehovah's witnesses then this will force individual members to renounce or abandon their religion for fear of persecution.. download legal argument (russian).
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Oh right so Mark Sanderson from the GB can turn up in Russia to defend the WT but they can't go to Australia to defend themselves for their horrendous child abuse policies?
Which is worse in their eyes? Being banned in a country or stopping the environment where systematic abuse of children occurs?
The answer is obvious by their attendance!
http://time.com/4723456/jehovahs-witness-russia-supreme-court/.
russian supreme court considers outlawing jehovah's witness worship.
the russian supreme court could declare the jehovah's witnesses an extremist organization in a wednesday hearing, a move that would lead to the seizure of the church's headquarters near st. petersburg and the outlawing of the group’s organized worship.. in advance of the hearing, international concern has grown.
OrphanCrow's letter is an April Fool's is it not?
what is it with this pair?
why do they have to constantly have a bitch about guys like john cedars?
a very recent video of them shows them calling him a 'village idiot' and making other disparaging claims.
Activist fights...they all want to be popular and be the number one source for people leaving the JW's.
It's been occurring for a while now...all their ego's are getting bigger and bigger and they care less about what they are actually doing.
But Lloyd is certainly one of them, his ego is huge...I like some of his content...but the attitude of him...I'll pass...his book is just an example of this.
I think a lot of activists who do not like Lloyd do so because he is athiest and offers an explanation why...in the case of Mike & Kim they are thiests and thus take massive umbridge from what Lloyd says.
In the last 5 years all these guys have popped up and quite frankly they bore me...Paul Grundy's jwfacts.com is an excellent example of how to do it right.
is it true, as bro jackson testified to the australian royal commission, that people can leave the religion freely?.
in my own case, yes.
i just stopped going and was never announced as ''no longer one of jw's''.
Told the elders I have "doubts" and wanted some breathing room...5 years later they do not bother me...I don't go and they all still talk to me if they bump into me.
As per Jackson fading is possible.
jehovah's witnesses mobilize global response to threat of ban in russia.
march 21, 2017. https://www.jw.org/en/news/releases/by-region/russia/jw-mobilize-global-response-to-threat-of-ban/.
new york—threatened with an imminent ban on their worship in russia, jehovah’s witnesses are responding with a direct appeal to kremlin and supreme court officials for relief through a global letter-writing campaign.
My wife has rushed to the meeting...all items in the Service Meeting have to end early..announcement being made about the letter writing campaign to Putin...Satan has been hooked by Jehoover ready for the Big A folks...hype train going full speed ahead.
Of course, if the whole of the US and NATO and the western world fails to deter Putin I'm not sure what a few letters are going to do?
Should I write one pretending to still be a dub and tell Putin how dare he ban us and Jehoover will punish him soon? :)
by now it seems obvious that the gb and other leaders of the wtbs are corrupt.
the pedo scandal and various financial schemes are sustained by either lack of concern or greed at the top.
my question is how far down the food chain does this go?
Local elders have no clue...they simply believe the hierarchy above them is controlled by God thus they accept everything the "letters" they get say.
i am not wanting to start a fight.
i just want to hear what people think.
honestly and realistically, what do you think the australian government will do, with watchtower, when they receive the full arc report?.
Hi Richard,
I don't think the government will do anything because they are Satan's agent as he wages war with propaganda against Jehovah and his servants.
Jehovah and his earthly organisation will prevail because the truth is that the WT abhors child abuse and does everything in its power to stop it yet Satan is using this as a smear campaign against the witnesses.
The government will do nothing because Jehovah will be vindicated in the way He runs his earthly organisation.
Is that what you wan to hear? Now bog off you WT apologetic...
i was pondering the recent influx of lawsuits against wt, specifically in regards to the child abuse cases (ie.
conti, fessler, lopez, etc).. in each of these, wt has settled for an "undisclosed" amount, assumed to be in the millions of dollars each.
i know there are many many more cases, subject for a different thread i'm sure.. i was reading something completely unrelated a while back that mentioned the dangers of settlement agreements for a large corporation or business (not just wt).
The things is...many of these cases mentioned...the victim has gone public, has done interviews, had press release and their story published for all to see and the the victims seem to be motivated, not by money, but by highlighting the dangers of WT policy and trying to foster change within the WT.
Then the WT offers a settlement along with a NDA and boom the victim gets compensation but can't tell any details...the exact thing they were trying to do...to get change...just doesn't get done when you accept a settlement.
The fact so many settle without any change is disheartening...ask a dub who Conti is and 99% won't know yet she is probably the most famous victim...
Of course the victims are fully entitled to all they can get considering what they have suffered but I find it confusing to read about a victim and all what they want to do to the WT and alert many people to the dangers of WT child abuse policies and effect change only for them to take a settlement and disappear...case closed and no change to WT child abuse policies.
sometimes theists challenge atheists about what evidence would be required before they would believe.
various unlikely scenarios are offered in reply.
i have taken the bait myself in the past.. i think the correct answer is much more ordinary.
If God exists then a lot of children would have less ice cream money...
one of my topics re "watchtower's 53 date failures ..." has a problem.. the document that delivers all that content is in pdf format.
the internal hyperlinks to the bookmarks don't work.
it's not your fault -- it's mine.. see all those dates in that table on page 3?
The links are fine when you download the PDF and open it up in a PDF reader like Acrobat DC...
But using an online hosted PDF reader like the Google Drive that allows you to view PDF's in a browser makes the hyperlinks not work.
