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  Is this life all there is?

  by Fisherman in

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  what do you sincerely think?

  do you nurture any hope?.

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  new boy2 hours ago2 hours ago2 hours ago"Not one person has returned from the dead. Enough people have lived and died, you would have thought one of them might show some proof?"
  Not true there are many people who have died and have return after the were clinically dead. There are dozens of books about their experiences. They all say the same thing and it's this "That is life is not all there is!"

  And as we all know when you are dying synapses in the brain are going mental with electrical signals in dramatic rises...which explains any "experience".

  This is common knowledge.
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  Strange

  by Jrjw in

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  a couple of times at the meetings this year we've been told that in the future we might get some strange directions from the society that might not make any sense to us.

  then they've said will we show our loyalty to jehovah by still obeying?

  seems a rather unusual thing to say.

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  They also said that the GB are not inspired and are not infalliable thus how can you be loyal to "strange" direction when they admit every policy and every teaching they produce may be wrong?
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  How many anointed have come and gone; how many remain?

  by Moster in

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  just wondering if there is any data about how many anointed there were in say 1914, and considering most would have passed 'beyond the veil' already, are the jw's numbers adding up?

  we know there are more in 2017 then there were in 2016, but just where are we in the grand total column?.

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  The amount of anointed at Pentecost and onwards nearly hit the limit back then...5,000 men joined plus women etc...

  Then from 1914 how many have died and NOW there 18,500 odd claiming to be anointed.

  Barmy...
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  Watchtower Releases 2017 Grand Total Figures!

  by darkspilver in

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  2017 grand totals.

  branches of jehovah’s witnesses: 90. .

  number of lands reporting: 240. .

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  So those that partake, that are anointed by Jehoovers Holy Shite went UP by 500 people in 2017 alone!

  18,564 in 2017 and 18,013 in 2016.

  Seriously?
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  Is this life all there is?

  by Fisherman in

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  what do you sincerely think?

  do you nurture any hope?.

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  knowsnothing1...but none of that is "proof"...your own eyes or ears are not proof of anything.

  Evidence for this type of thing has to come from the "majority" and that is your experience was just that, your experience and not something that proves anything supernatural.

  The evidence of the "majority" shows this life is all there is..you ar ewelcome to believe something else but it is not based on "fact".
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  Is this life all there is?

  by Fisherman in

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  what do you sincerely think?

  do you nurture any hope?.

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  @knowsnothing1...

  How can you tell whatever experience you had was in fact "real"? Might it be "real" in your mind only?

  In the history of human history there has been zero evidence of spirits and the spirit world...there was even a million bucks on offer to prove it and no-one collected it.

  I know people who have had spirit experience yet it is not proof...it may have been a dream, it may have been mental illness etc but it was not real at all.

  There is no spirit work or spirits because there has been zero proof to say there is in human history.

  You can't use your experiences as proof...as they may have been real to you when in fact they are not real.
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  Do they officially give marking talks without telling the one marked?

  by Wakanda in

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  my pimi (physically in, mentally in) friend believes she was marked without them telling her.

  i believe her, and she has been making work for the elders.

  she is a pain in their arse, and they are a pain in hers, which is great.

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  They never have told the person being marked that they are going to be marked from a policy point of view...they are not supposed to.

  They just give a talk and the person being marked is supposed to repent, others who know the situation then shun the one they know is marked and others if they have no clue just carry on as normal but if they learn of whatever wrong conduct was mentioned they then shun the person doing the wrong conduct.
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  New Light

  by Lost in the fog in

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  am i the only one who can't reconcile new light with the light gets brighter?

  if it matters at all.

  i bring a candle into my house and light it.

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  But the light is not getting brighter if you follow the JW idea behind it...CT RUssell said that new light would come but would not extinguish old light...it would not replace it...hence adding two candles to a dark room makes it brighter than one as new light enhances the old light.

  But what we have in JW land is new light replacing old light...one candle is blown out and another lit...the room does not get brighter if you do this.

  Overlapping generations REPLACES the literal generation idea...the literal generation is "blown out" replaced by an overlapping one.

  Therefore, CT Russels idea of "new light" is wildly different to what JW's proclaim as new light today and that new idea fails to explain how things are getting "brighter".
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  Can someone tell me why Joan's ark and the flood not true and impossible?

  by Gokumonkey in

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  hey everyone.

  i have a question and i hope i'm not confusing this with something else i heard.

  while watching ex jw videos on youtube many of them talk about how noah's ark and the flood didn't happen and it's impossible.

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  http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/faq-noahs-ark.html
  
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  WARWICK

  by Phoebe in

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  as it's highly unlikely i'll ever go to warwick, i found lloyd evans latest video fascinating.

  i had no idea that the whole 'museum' (if you can call it that) was so big.

  notice the credit card machines by the entrance.

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  Good point...but...these people are watching his videos whilst "still in"? meaning they must already be on the fence so to speak otherwise there JW voice would say this is wrong to watch.

  In the past when Cedars was more neutral you COULD watch his videos WHILST being 100% in because I did...and it was a factor in me getting out.

  BUT he has drastically changed his website and where he is going with his activism...fair enough but it won't take someone who is in to then come out...I firmly believe if he stuck to being more neutral like Paul Grundy at jwfacts.com that you can then win over still-ins.

  But yeah he has to advertise himself if he wants to live off for sure...my point is over the 6 years I've been out it appears to me that his goal is himself first...but that is just my opinion.

  The real thing is whatever gets people out I'm all for...if people like his videos...great...I do not with some of them based on his previous dealings.