Come one, Lloyd!
It really takes almost 2 HOURS to get your point across?? Really?
His videos are really long as of late...
oh wow!.
the feb2018 broadcast is an absolute masterclass in cult manipulation, and a prime example of the high control nature of the society!.
if you haven't watched it, be prepared for some really disturbing stuff, especially as they address children, and guilt them into jw activity.
Come one, Lloyd!
It really takes almost 2 HOURS to get your point across?? Really?
His videos are really long as of late...
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2018/02/19/keego-harbor-jehovahs-witness-mom-triple-murder-suicide/351559002/.
this was on the front page of freep.com this morning - sadly there are some factual errors in this article that people will jump on (not allowed to go to college was in original article for instance - hopefully the reporter will correct it).
interesting reading the comments below the article - all kinds of opinions.
For the loud and clear record, the urge to kill other people is an identifiable criterion of NO recognized mental health disorder.
What a ridiculous statement....well of course not the URGE to kill is not a criteria of mental health disorder but it is clear murder/manslaughter or suicide, when investigated, has a high percentage of mental health issues are involved.
Speaking from experience...
https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2018/02/19/keego-harbor-jehovahs-witness-mom-triple-murder-suicide/351559002/.
this was on the front page of freep.com this morning - sadly there are some factual errors in this article that people will jump on (not allowed to go to college was in original article for instance - hopefully the reporter will correct it).
interesting reading the comments below the article - all kinds of opinions.
I have to say....
Whilst being a shunned ex-JW certainly contributed to her mental state a person who kills all their family has severe issues beyond being shunned.
The media will pick up her friend and the women being an ex-JW but you can't blame everything on that...it is just a factor...otherwise loads of us ex-JW's would be doing this.
It is a heart breaking story...such a lovely family...all wiped out by a women with mental illness...certainly fueled by being shunned.
With the growth of mental illness shunning should be outlawed as against human rights.
Nothing is worth more than human life.
kenneth cook was a "helper" in the writing department, which is apparently a role for those of the great crowd.
watchtower 15/10/15 p.3 states that helpers are of the great crowd.
"since 1992, the governing body has appointed experienced, mature christian elders to help its committees carry out their work.
Having met most of the GB in the 1990's and 2000's and knew John Barr quite well I am convinced GB 1.0 were "Captives to a Concept" in that they believed 100% what they were doing was "the truth" hence why they kept in the background.
Conversely...whilst I am out and "see" GB 2.0 I am fairly convinced the majority of these are NOT like the GB of old and most, the majority, know that there are fundamental issues with their doctrines about "the end" and know there will be no end in their life time.
Jackson, Morris, Sanderson, Lett etc are in this bracket in my opinion.
The GB 2.0 are fundamentally different to the GB 1.0 of old and with that comes the belief that they are doing what is right...I think most on the GB 2.0 know some of it is bull.
So it will only be expected to see the same type of people appointed to the GB...either through copying the GB 2.0 or by being persuaded by the GB 2.0 that they qualify.
the wt is at it again it seems.
playing dirty as it can, trying to silence dissenters.. the john cedars channel on youtube has been taken down after the posting of a video critique of regional (district) convention leaked videos.. sounds like something putin would do in russia.
you know what they say, birds of a feather fly together--what a murder of crows all of'em!.
That still gobsmacks me.
What kind of f**ktard tries to defend his authoritarian and legalistic regime to a community who've left said regime as a direct result of its authoritarianism and legalism and actually expect successful results?
Are they actually stoopid enough to think they're gonna change any minds here?
Or was that itself a stoopid question?
They are clearly scared of still-in JW's actually watching exjw content...
i happen to be one of very few people who know of this condition that the man has.
he had an accident several years ago with some power equipment.
leviticus 21:20 commands that no man present the bread at the temple with damaged testicles... so?.
Having "the snip" is "frowned upon" because if it becomes public knowledge that a brother has the snip, altering his organs Jehoover gave him in way that he cannot procreate then he is deemed not to be in good standing showing good "mental health" thus cannot be appointed in any fashion.
Of course when I was in I knew loads of elders who had the snip yet just never disclosed it publically.
a letter was read tonight in our kingdom hall that the money that the circuits in the indianapolis area had in savings to build a new assembly hall will now be transferred to the www to build kingdom halls in lands where they are needed and a new assembly hall for us will not be built.. we had a beautiful assembly hall near downtown indy that was paid for.
it was sold a couple of years ago.
we were promised a new assembly hall to be built in southern ohio near the indiana border but they can kiss that goodbye now.
The corporation is flush with $$$$. This new money grab is just normal operation procedure for Watchtower Real Estate and Internet Company.
It is this in a nutshell...whilst they are now being very careful with their money and "grabbing"what they can they are in no way going bust financially in our lifetimes.
just wondering if anyone has gone back to a meeting out of curiosity?
(perhaps to an area far from your old khall where you know no one).
with all the changes from 2012 onwards (videos, tv screens, new meeting format, new songs etc) it would be an odd experience to be in attendance!.
Why? 99% of us come out because we now KNOW it is not the "truth" so why ever go back????
Only those that never prove to themselves that it is NOT the truth would ever consider "going back"...even for "curiousity"....
For me...I will NEVER go back.
is this true?
is this really true?!.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qirjv48c55m.
Bobby...quick question for you...
Are you "still in"?
I'd suggest the fact that Cedars video being a monster 2 hour long video as a rebuttal puts people off...I want to see a rebuttal of it but no way I'm sitting through 2 hours of one...that's like these old boring meetings I used to go to...
so i have started down the path of trying to understand evolution, and to get the linear lies that the jws planted in my head out of it.
i bought an audiobook called "evolution: what the fossils say and why it matters" by donald prothero.
i heard it recommended on an atheist podcast that i listened to.
enabled me to see conclusively the Beauty of Creation
Childrens book don't count mate...