The trinity doctrine it's not what the WT says.
-john_mann
john, what is the correct trinity teaching? it's an interesting subject to me, just curious to see your viewpoint.
Elephant
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Was the Watchtower Right?
by Christ Alone inthis question is for atheists and believers.
what teachings do you think the watchtower got right and why?
do you still think they are right about the trinity?
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Do You Realize That Almost EVERY Society Publication Is "Old Light" Now?
by minimus innow that the "faithful & discreet slave class" has become essentially the governing body since 1919, almost every publication is obsolete and useless!
(i know, they are useless)..... the fds doctrine is a core teaching unique to jehovah's witnesses and now i believe they will have to change all of their understandings that are recorded in the revelation climax book, ezekiel books---every prophetic book written by the society!.
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May I ask you a touchy question: Do you, personally believe that the end will come within your lifetime?
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sure, i'll answer, but I warn you, my answer won't suit you...
...my answer is, it makes no difference.
...you see? ...bibiyan, the end is not up to me...so why concern myself with hurrying it up?...further, I've decided what activities in my present life are worthy of my time and effort...THAT I do have a choice on...
...may I ask why?
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Do You Realize That Almost EVERY Society Publication Is "Old Light" Now?
by minimus innow that the "faithful & discreet slave class" has become essentially the governing body since 1919, almost every publication is obsolete and useless!
(i know, they are useless)..... the fds doctrine is a core teaching unique to jehovah's witnesses and now i believe they will have to change all of their understandings that are recorded in the revelation climax book, ezekiel books---every prophetic book written by the society!.
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Elephant
The name is the same but the beliefs are staggeringly different..
The WBT$ GB has replaced the Anointed..
I`m also told there is mention of the WBT$ GB in the songs..
In the new WBT$ new song books coming out..
A question for you..
Will you sing the Praises of your 8 Golden Calves,the WBT$ GB?..
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Yes outlaw…it’s all so very staggering…
…furthermore, If I now pray for these ‘golden calves’ (your interpretation), what’s a little tune?
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Do You Realize That Almost EVERY Society Publication Is "Old Light" Now?
by minimus innow that the "faithful & discreet slave class" has become essentially the governing body since 1919, almost every publication is obsolete and useless!
(i know, they are useless)..... the fds doctrine is a core teaching unique to jehovah's witnesses and now i believe they will have to change all of their understandings that are recorded in the revelation climax book, ezekiel books---every prophetic book written by the society!.
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minimus
Elephant, the things you mention, were from Russellite days. The FDS doctrine has been a centerpiece of the Organization. And anyone who's been in the Organization for the last 50 plus years will realize that what they believed in yesterday wasn't even true.
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in regards to WHO the FDS, yes, i can perhaps see a point to your argument... except the FDS has been functioning all this time nonetheless...the religion that is Jehovah's Witnesses has not been replaced with a new religion all of a sudden, which is what you seem to imply...
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Do You Realize That Almost EVERY Society Publication Is "Old Light" Now?
by minimus innow that the "faithful & discreet slave class" has become essentially the governing body since 1919, almost every publication is obsolete and useless!
(i know, they are useless)..... the fds doctrine is a core teaching unique to jehovah's witnesses and now i believe they will have to change all of their understandings that are recorded in the revelation climax book, ezekiel books---every prophetic book written by the society!.
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Elephant
minimus,
are you sure?...why do you consider this to be more 'earth-shattering' than say, Russell's pyramid? date of great tribulation? date of armaggedon? 1914? etc. etc.?
...my guess is the org will be just fine with its current stock of literature...
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Do You Realize That Almost EVERY Society Publication Is "Old Light" Now?
by minimus innow that the "faithful & discreet slave class" has become essentially the governing body since 1919, almost every publication is obsolete and useless!
(i know, they are useless)..... the fds doctrine is a core teaching unique to jehovah's witnesses and now i believe they will have to change all of their understandings that are recorded in the revelation climax book, ezekiel books---every prophetic book written by the society!.
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Elephant
Sorry bro, kindergarten level logic says that if what you claim to have been "right" is negated by something else that is now "right", that first "right" must have been "wrong".
But I forget, logic is a nono in JW land....
...use all the kindergarden logic you seem fit bibiyan (no need to apologize) ...the reality is that 'change' has been implemented...much as it has before AND will be...(i'm assuming much to your chagrin...)
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Do You Realize That Almost EVERY Society Publication Is "Old Light" Now?
by minimus innow that the "faithful & discreet slave class" has become essentially the governing body since 1919, almost every publication is obsolete and useless!
(i know, they are useless)..... the fds doctrine is a core teaching unique to jehovah's witnesses and now i believe they will have to change all of their understandings that are recorded in the revelation climax book, ezekiel books---every prophetic book written by the society!.
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Elephant
bibiyan,
what you interpret as 'wrong' i can interpret as 'right'...
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Do You Realize That Almost EVERY Society Publication Is "Old Light" Now?
by minimus innow that the "faithful & discreet slave class" has become essentially the governing body since 1919, almost every publication is obsolete and useless!
(i know, they are useless)..... the fds doctrine is a core teaching unique to jehovah's witnesses and now i believe they will have to change all of their understandings that are recorded in the revelation climax book, ezekiel books---every prophetic book written by the society!.
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Elephant
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The FDS doctrine is a core teaching unique to Jehovah's Witnesses and now I believe they will have to change all of their understandings that are recorded in the Revelation Climax book, Ezekiel books---EVERY prophetic book written by the Society
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...may i point out that this has already been done before? recall what preceeded the Revelation Climax book? what about the Daniel, Isaiah, Family, Greatest man, greatest teacher? how about the Watchtower? Awake? etc., etc....
...afraid the dramatics are unjustified my friend...
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Do You Think All This New Light Will Rattle Any Of The Witnesses?
by minimus inor do you think the sheeple will just follow the gb's words without question?.
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Elephant
minimus,
a better question would be, WHY would it rattle any of the witnesses?...this 'new light' is, again, 'new interpretation' of a spiritual subject...it cannot be either proven false or true, the listener must decide and live accordingly...
...as stated elsewhere, individuals who consider themselves as annointed AND with a voice might feel slighted by this...but if I'm of the other sheep, (or annointed) what difference does it make? has my hope changed? is my future altered in any way ?
...i'll admit this makes for a very interesting conversation with fellow jw's and folks here...but (unfortunately for some) the bigger picture remains unchanged...
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Most solid evidence I've seen linking WT to Mason, somebody try to debunk this lol
by EndofMysteries inwhat is in the background?????.
now read what was released and given to all convention attenders about the building of his gravesite, about what's inside it, and about who owns all the land.
from the book called souvenir report of the bible student's convention jan. 2-5, 1919 link:.
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Elephant
endofmysteries -
If anybody has joined them or knows what I am talking about, just know this, within all those scriptures and the bible, there are scriptures that also speak opposite of what you believe. So the big pandora's box then becomes, which is right and which is wrong.
...a very good question...
...have you ever contemplated the ouroborus symbol?